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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 15, 2023, 12:55:00 PM »

Well, that's a different discussion. That's well-established historical fact, not modern news where biased sources omit coverage of inconvenient truth.

When you get right down to it, the invasion of Poland was partly the european allies fault. Sure, Germany was the egregious asshole who invaded it's neighbor, but again, there's this thing called "culpability", and if you have every reason to be expected to stop something and you DON'T... you are culpable.

As a stipulation of the Treaty of Versailles, Germany was not to be allowed to rebuild it's military. But they all watched like the procrastinating shivering little weaklings that they were as Germany slowly but surely amassed the military power to eventually prevent any foreign military intervention within their borders. Later when Hitler started making moves, British PM Chamberlain accepted Hitler at his word that he wouldn't make any further moves... meanwhile he's documented in the German parliament making statements disparaging the British as weak and incompetent. Hint hint, Chamberlain. The allies DAMN WELL KNEW months before the invasion that Germany was building up on the Polish border. They did nothing. They offered stern warnings. Even after the invasion began, they did NOTHING. Then shortly thereafter he bypassed the Maginot Line through Belgium on his way to France,... and FINALLY people got the fuck up off their hands and started to do something. By then, it was already too late. Virtually the whole of western europe was under German occupation.

They saw it coming, they were too busy still being terrified of the memories of WW1, they did nothing. The end result was a war with a death toll that dwarfed WW1 many times over.

Today, in light of what happened in WW2... Do you think that the Polish accept the French or British at their word when they say they will come and help defend them if something happens? HELL NO, THEY DON'T. They don't trust ANYONE. They damn well know they are on their own. They do not forget how the French promised to help them and then did NOTHING. In their minds, the French and British are... CULPABLE.

Yes, RUSSIA INVADED. That is not the point. It's not a black and white question of WHAT FLAG INVADED. You said...

Bombing Ukraine for no good reason - also evil. (even though I know people who think it is USA's fault)

I mean what's the real argument there? Is this person arguing that "No, it wasn't Russia, it was AMERICANS WEARING RUSSIAN UNIFORMS that invaded!" No. They are referring to "culpability".

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tastyspleen.net / Re: IRON-FISTED DRACONIAN FORUM POSTING RULES

« on: June 15, 2023, 12:18:26 PM »

I keep discovering that there are "new rules" which no one has been informed of in any kind of official capacity. No nazi symbols for any reason, no using the hip-hop culture "N-word-ending-in-an-A", no insults referring to same-sex lifestyles, no using the insult "kill yourself"...

It'd be nice to know what the rules really are well in advance of having administrative action taken against us for breaking them.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 15, 2023, 11:46:39 AM »

This pointless time consuming bullshit that is not related to the original subject of UFO spacecraft,  was started on reply #1, reply #41, and reply #58 (the first reply I noticed and I responded to, thinking I was only making a brief observation) by forum user |iR|Focalor, and these replies were completely unrelated to this thread's topic.

http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=23167.msg233580#msg233580

http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=23167.msg235586#msg235586

http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=23167.msg237955#msg237955

Yeah, you are absolved from any responsibility in this interaction because I posted first.

Wrong.

Just like the US isn't absolved from responsibility just because another country decided to roll over a border with military assets in response to something they did .

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 15, 2023, 11:43:42 AM »

Did you expect anything different from the dink? No you didn't.

 

Fuck you. Butthurt little bitch.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 14, 2023, 02:54:42 PM »

You libtards are really weird.

We completely fucking agree.

And now that we do, I'm done with this pointless time consuming bullshit. This is the exact same argument I've had with 50 other ignorant fuckin people, where I'm making the same points, and I'm getting the same non-answers and strawman arguments in response.

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art, music, etc. / Re: Darth Trump - hilarious

« on: June 14, 2023, 02:14:10 PM »

Oh. THIS video. Yeah.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 14, 2023, 01:33:42 PM »

Who is "us people"?  I think there is some assuming going on here.

It's not an assumption. It's a well defined and well established pattern of behavior by a certain segment of the opinionated public on social media. "YOU PEOPLE" are everyone (like Punk-FAS who used to post here) who insist on discussing his personality traits rather than his track record as president. His personality largely sucks. He's an incredible asshole. Sometimes I find his asshole-ish statements to be humorous though, and it is easy for me to look past his assholery, primarily because his presidency has been beneficial to America. In fact, you even admitted this much, right before you proceeded to bash his media projected personality faults like the lemming that you are:

Yeah, it's positively insane to admit that China is fucking us hand over fist with their slave labor created imported goods that intentionally undercut American produced goods and then try to level the playing field to a degree.

I have no disagreement about the China thing.

And yet...

The America First thing is all fakery.

You don't disagree that balancing the scales with import tariffs on cheap near-slave-wage produced goods from overseas is a good thing... but America First is bullshit? If you're gonna have a position,... consistency is all I ask for.

He is laughing at the people that vote for him, smiling as he gets more money from his "base". Trump is an atheist democrat, grifting his voters for more money to fuel his lifestyle and gold plated toilet. It's a pretty effective scam actually.

When he became President, I didn't vote for him. In fact... when he got elected, I laughed sardonically at how stupid I thought half of America was for voting for him. But then people (like Quadz, which I think SAYS SOMETHING IMPORTANT) who actually pay attention to things discovered that he was not just another carpetbagging corrupt-o. Gas prices stabilized and we were energy independent, we began forcing Chinese and multinational corporations to COMPETE FAIRLY in the US market, drug prices came down, employment went up, purchasing power increased, we had no new wars, affairs in the middle east between Israel and Palestine were finally looking promising, and for the first time EVER a US President met face-to-face with the leader of North Korea. I expected him to be a terrible president. He proved me wrong.

"Grifting his voters for money." Let's examine that though. As far as I've seen, the only thing anyone's been able to possibly link him to is a couple of rather small sums of possible campaign funds given to a cum-guzzling porn star and one of the most notoriously slutty gutter trash Playboy Playmates of all time. Yeah, do you remember the shit with Clinton back in the day? I didn't much give a shit about that either. Pretty fucking irrelevant, dude. It's funny how democrat supporters can suddenly pretend like that kind of shit matters AT ALL only when it is politically advantageous to have a little bit of old-timey conservative morality. Understand that I'm not a bible-thumping loyal republican. If Trump's an atheist... so what, so am I! I HATED W. Bush (didn't vote for him the 2nd time, I abstained that year because I didn't like the Democrat option either). I'm entirely independent. If there is an actual "independent party", that is not what I mean. I mean NO PARTY. I may be a "Trump supporter", but I have a seething hatred for the "Republican party". I hate BOTH of the Bush's. Even Jeb, fuck him too. While I think Reagan did a few good things and he was the charismatic leader we NEEDED at that point in history, I'd still score him considerable lower than where others might. For all his talk about "Morning in America", it was the beginning of China undercutting the viability of American goods with their underpaid labor, and Reagan had plenty of time to address the obvious trend, and he DIDN'T.

Other than that, I've yet to see any of Trumps opposition produce any proof of financial "grifting." They dug HARD into his kids business dealings while he was president, going through everything with a fine tooth comb, looking for ANY hint of corruption. They didn't find jack shit.

As for the current president... various members of his family have received very large sums of money for undisclosed reasons from off-shore banking sources such as Cyprus that are notoriously used for laundering money. There is evidence of money laundering schemes on the notorious Hunter Biden laptop, which that same group of "YOU PEOPLE" insist only has a few dick pics on it. Uh... no. But it's not surprising that EVERYONE hasn't learned the full extent of the contents of the laptop... seeing as how mainstream media coordinated with social media at the behest of the FBI and Justice Dept to suppress the story.

And since we're on the topic of money... and YOU brought it up...

he played more golf in one term than Obama did in two terms.

Trump Golf Count: 298*
Cost to Taxpayer: About $144,000,000**

I'm sorry if I find it hard to give a shit about golf when the country is doing so well. Meanwhile the current administration has proposed to spend 9 TRILLION FUCKIN DOLLARS in addition to the billions of dollars sent to Ukraine that isn't being accounted for (which is significantly more than what Trump spent playing golf, but you don't seem to mind), in addition to the billions of dollars worth of equipment and CASH that was left behind in the reckless mad dash to exit Afghanistan just so that he could more easily justify the 9 TRILLION DOLLAR spending proposal to Congress.

Where is your "give a fuck" for this?

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art, music, etc. / Re: Darth Trump - hilarious

« on: June 14, 2023, 01:24:53 PM »

I'll just have to take your word for it.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 14, 2023, 09:50:02 AM »

Challenge: Name 3 Trump policies that you think are "insane".

None I can think of at the moment.

Yeah, that always seems to happen with you people.

Why did a failed businessman-turned-reailty-dork-weirdo get made into the second coming of Jesus Christ?

The same reason why someone like Quadz voted to re-elect him. I didn't vote for him either the first time around. I abstained because I viscerally hated the idea of BOTH candidates becoming president. I figured Richie Rich the reality star could know NOTHING about what the average american wants or needs, but his policy decisions proved otherwise. With only a couple of exceptions, I liked his "America first" philosophy and every single one of his policies (exceptions being anti-consumer shit like repealing the net neutrality act - the chickens will come home to roost on that one before the end of the decade - additionally, the covid stimulus checks were a HUGE mistake that precipitated inflation and the Feds currency printing spike).

Where is some reasonable gun control?

Define "reasonable gun control". Does this "gun control" violate the US Constitution at all? If so, please your anti-American anti-Constitution opinions and shove them into your shit hole where they came from.

Because to the rest of America, it's VERY REASONABLE that one has to submit to a background check when purchasing a firearm. It's reasonable that not everyone is eligible to legally purchase, own, or possess a firearm.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 14, 2023, 12:57:56 AM »

Much like DJT, Putin was respected until he went insane.

Yeah, it's positively insane to admit that China is fucking us hand over fist with their slave labor created imported goods that intentionally undercut American produced goods and then try to level the playing field to a degree. It's positively insane to make the US completely oil independent for the first time ever, no longer beholden to the middle eastern oil mobsters.

What was it that did it for you? Was it all the mean tweets? Bless your little heart. God forbid you should actually pay attention to whats really going on.

Challenge: Name 3 Trump policies that you think are "insane".

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 13, 2023, 11:00:00 PM »

Scott Ritter and Patrick Lancaster intensifying...

Alternative universe:  Russia doesn't invade Ukraine, many more nations join "USA" / NATO , then what happens?  ...... *crickets*.  Nothing.  Russia loses nothing, USA gains nothing other than a sense of security. Life goes on.

No clue who those two assholes are.

Alternative universe? Oh, you mean a fuckin fantasy land? You go dreaming of that bullshit, meanwhile I'm gonna be back here in reality where the World Economic Forum exacts economic war on countries like Russia that refuse to play ball. If at any point you want to refute my statements with any contradictory facts you can find, feel free to do so, because honestly the whole "you must be a conspiracy theorist" shit is not an actual refutation of anything, it's just a convenient shortcut for ignorant dickheads to save face and dip out of an argument before they're required to present any valid evidence.

Let me put it in terms that even liberal lemmings can understand, mkay? If Donald Trump continued to call Kim Jong Un a "fat stupid rocket man" on Twitter every day for 3 months, and then finally a known psycho like Kim Jong Un shot a small nuclear missile at Japan in retaliation, would NO ONE be blaming Trump? Hell, Trump said "fight like hell" in a context that had nothing to do with any kind of insurrection, yet it's the primary piece of evidence people want to use to blame him for "The Insurrection of January 6th".

So for the 3rd or 4th time now, YES, the United States (by way of assholes like Joe Biden) is measurably culpable for the war in Ukraine. When you taunt a notoriously vicious animal until it bites you, you can't act like a blameless victim when it does.

Personally, I'd prefer it if Russia called the whole thing off, went home, and left Ukraine the hell alone from now on. But that's not going to happen. He can't do that. And the US knows it. The corporate exodus didn't succeed in crushing Russia financially, so now the game is to mire them down in an ongoing unwinnable war and bleed them slowly.

Furthermore, not sure if you really know what "many more nations join USA/NATO" truly entails. The World Economic Forum is not a conspiracy theory. The global economy they're chasing is like a monopoly. It doesn't compete with anything, therefore it has no incentive to serve YOU. YOU serve IT. A great example... Amazon has now successfully killed off enough of their competition that they can start charging fees for returns now. Don't wanna pay it? Shop somewhere else. But... the number of places you can shop for your kitschy bullshit is shrinking, isn't it.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 13, 2023, 06:52:05 PM »

I never understood this. NATO is protective and defensive, they are not aggressive.

It's pretty simple to understand. NATO is the US. We can pretend like the other nations can decide to gang up on us, but that'll never happen because WE give them all their best weapons. Without us, they're fighting everyone else on even terms, and they will lose.

And it's not just NATO itself that Russia objected to. Like I said, Ukraine has been being set up as a US puppet state since the Obama administration. It IS an aggressive move in and of itself. For some fuckin' psycho reason, these people WANTED war with Russia, and it's probably for the same reason that Bush-era republicans wanted war in Iraq: MONEY. We pay it every year, they invent ways to try to get us to actually vocally support the way they essentially steal it. "Support the troops!" "Support Ukraine!" Remember to virtue signal, kids!



But these days, the US government is less and less the ones in control of shit. We're turning into an oligarchy where the corporations are the ones pulling the strings of the government puppet. So many of our politicians and CEO's are involved in shit like the World Economic Forum which is trying as hard as it can to shift the world to a global economy. The shit they tried in Russia after they invaded Ukraine is further proof of that. They pulled all of their participating companies and corporations out of Russia hoping to completely cripple their economy. It sort of worked for a little while - the Russian ruble crashed. But Russia's a big place, and as it turns out, they can get by just fine without all the shitty WEF influenced multinational corporations fleecing them. It created opportunities for more Russian-owned businesses, and now they're doing just fine.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 13, 2023, 12:53:01 PM »

Aw hell yeah, because fuck knows what I'm doing is defending Russia's GOD GIVEN right to enter another nation and start killing people. You seemed to be of the opinion that the US had NO CULPABILITY in the issue. I was informing anyone reading this mess that that is simply NOT TRUE.

The fuck are you talking about? Major military superpowers are not neighbors in a suburb subdivision - that comparison is fuckin retarded. These are countries with plenty of history of questionable moves on both sides that have nuclear weapons at their disposal. It's a bad idea to have opposing superpowers bordering each other. It's the reason why the French built the Maginot Line after WW1. "Buffer states" is how the Soviet Union addressed the issue during the Cold War period. You don't "stare down" a military power that can strike and destroy your assets in less than an hour. In modern war, blitzkrieg tactics pioneered in the 1940's with mobile armor are still the gold standard in land based warfare. If you want to win, you strike first, you strike hard, and you crush them before they can regroup.

MANY TIMES, Putin said that if Ukraine continued pursuing membership in NATO, he would be forced to take action. The US continued offering NATO membership to Ukraine. A few more times, Putin continued to warn of what would happen if they continued. He began amassing forces on the border, we all watched it happen slowly but surely in real time. The opportunity was there for diplomacy to work out some kind of deal acceptable to Russia where Ukraine didn't join NATO, but the US and Ukraine chose to NOT seek any further diplomacy over the matter. So if you want to pretend that Ukraine had no reasonable expectation of such an outcome - that's not true at all. Looking at the facts on paper, it's quite obvious that they WANTED Russia to attack them and start a war.

Again, I'm NOT defending Russia's actions. The war they've started is killing people and destroying the country. They're bringing in Chechen mercs (and various other Islamic fundamentalists) who are DEFINITELY committing war crimes - war crimes and atrocity is just what they do for fun on a normal Friday night. Then again... Ukraine and coalition forces are doing their own damage as well. It's been shown that some elements of Ukraine forces display Nazi associated symbols in their insignias and are steeped in Nazi philosophy. This whole shit's a clusterfucked knotted-up disaster no matter which angle you view it from.

All I'm saying is... WAR is the effect, and Ukraine possibly joining NATO is the cause. The US is not a blameless non-participant here. We've been actively setting them up as a puppet state since the Obama administration. This outcome was virtually inevitable.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 13, 2023, 12:56:42 AM »

Bombing Ukraine for no good reason - also evil. (even though I know people who think it is USA's fault)

 

It is.

The Maidan Revolution (during the Obama-Biden admin) was sparked with the help of DNC/George Soros funded political ops organizing through social media. USA was literally meddling in Ukrainian politics. How does Russia respond? They forcibly annex the Crimea region.

Meanwhile on the other side of town, Hunter Biden, a crackhead with a working knowledge of thai hookers and fuck else, is installed on the board of the biggest energy company in Ukraine as a consultant with no real job to perform making multiple times more than any similar consultant in the history of the world. It's pretty fishy. Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor general of Ukraine, thought so too, but wouldn't you know it, before he could begin officially investigating the matter, VP Joe Biden made a phone call saying, "If you want the money, FIRE this guy." And in some circles, some might call that a case of "quid pro quo".

Check the video here for proof:

https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden

FFW to 51:50 (is it crazy that 5150 is the California police code for a crazy person?)

And that is I’m desperately concerned about the backsliding on the part of Kiev in terms of corruption. They made—I mean, I’ll give you one concrete example. I was—not I, but it just happened to be that was the assignment I got. I got all the good ones. And so I got Ukraine. And I remember going over, convincing our team, our leaders to—convincing that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him.

(Laughter.)

I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

Fact checkers drinking the Biden kool-aid will attempt to tell you that he wasn't investigating Burisma or Hunter. 



Isn't it odd that they claim that the reason he wanted Shokin fired is because he wasn't pursuing corruption among the Ukrainian politicians, but no one can seem to pinpoint any specific and apparently known political corruption among the many politicians that he might've been referring to. But we CAN pinpoint dated documents filed prior to Shokin's firing proving that he was indeed initiating the investigation into Burisma.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story/

For instance, Burisma’s American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the country’s chief prosecutor and offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about the Ukrainian prosecutors, according to the Ukrainian government’s official memo of the meeting. The effort to secure that meeting began the same day the prosecutor’s firing was announced.

...

The memos raise troubling questions:

1.)   If the Ukraine prosecutor’s firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma’s American legal team refer to those allegations as “false information?”

2.)   If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma’s American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?

Fast-forward to the Trump administration. Trump called President Zelensky telling him he needed to investigate the situation. How does the DNC react? They impeach Trump alleging "quid pro quo".

Meanwhile... Hell even lefty media sources like USA Today can't deny the hypocrisy of the situation... or no, actually they TOTALLY FUCKING CAN...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

Even if it were true, it's still fuckin "quid pro quo",... but... He's a democrat, and democrats are the party who just want to HELP the people, give them healthcare, shit like that, mkay. So if he does it for the noble cause of "ousting a corrupt prosecutor", then it's OKAY, right? Meanwhile, once again, no one can seem to pinpoint specifically what it is that makes this prosecutor "corrupt". How many times does shit like that have to happen before a person starts to wonder if they're being pumped full o' bullshit?

Fast-forward again to the Biden admin. Talks with Ukraine indicate a clear possibility that Ukraine could join NATO, which would effectively park US military assets right along the Russian border. Gee, do you think if Mexico accepted some kind of alliance with Russia that would allow them to keep considerable Russian military assets within striking distance of US soil that the Pentagon wouldn't be shitting their pants and reacting with military force?

And now you know why Russia invaded Ukraine. And it's pretty much all Biden's fault.

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/dev/random / Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA

« on: June 12, 2023, 09:40:22 PM »

I've already heard too many people trying to compare the influx of Cubans in the 80's to this modern border invasion. These people are like unpaid witless brainless non-commissioned officers in the army of DNC propaganda. They either know they are completely full of shit when they try to pass off this "don't believe your lying eyes and ears" bullshit, or they are genuine duped fools, and either way, their brand of bullshit is something I DO NOT ENTERTAIN.

One argument I sort of anticipated after that was: Yes, but those numbers are record highs. Fine, let's half it, that's still over 1 and a half MILLION immigrants per year... and yet we're supposed to believe that 11-12mil is an accurate current number of illegal immigrants living here? Yeah, that math don't compute. I'm aware of the way they used to come and go and swap social security numbers. It's an aspect of organized crime, one that you never hear about when the FBI discusses that topic. They're too busy filling peoples heads with the idea that "white supremacists" are the biggest organized crime problem we have these days.

And again, those are only immigrants they catch and detain. It's typically estimated that only about 1/4 to 1/3 at most are detained and counted, the rest slip through unnoticed and uncounted. So whatever the yearly number is, multiply that by 3 or 4 and you'll have the likely TOTAL number of immigrants. It's reckless, and it's not sustainable. And it's obvious why the DNC is not in a hurry to instruct anyone to ship these damn people back across the border. Like I said...

let's call it what it is. It's Democrats streamlining the importation of what they believe will be loyal Democrat voters (a form of election meddling, obviously), and they also consider them a reliable source of tax revenue for the government so they can continue their obscene spending habits. They do not really care about these people and do not care to make their lives better (otherwise they'd focus more on the problem of what is making them decide to immigrate in the first place). They are a means to an end.

And one more thing...

...Quite frankly, it's a human tragedy...

That was not a casual flippant summary, I seriously mean the word "TRAGEDY". It's a fucking NIGHTMARE at the border. Instances of rape are RAMPANT in the temporary holding facilities (the 'kids in cages' they liked so much to mention while uber-racist Trump was prez... the ones that Obama installed in the first place... and the same ones that Biden is STILL USING). You hear these wokey fucks talking about women's rights so much like they give a shit... they don't. They wanna go green and save the planet for the children... meanwhile hundreds of kids are getting raped coming across the border that they've essentially opened wide to everyone. The fact that so few border patrol workers are committing suicide is both a miracle and a testament to their level of professionalism, because anyone else being forced to bear witness to the levels of suffering and tragedy that is going on would develop severe depression and a drinking problem within the first week.