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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread

« on: May 31, 2020, 08:20:24 PM »

Good-guy protesters interrupt a bad-guy protester from breaking crap:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/gubn82/wcgw_if_you_try_to_riot_in_washington_dc_amongst/

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Politics / Re: George Floyd

« on: May 31, 2020, 03:35:01 AM »

Support black businesses! Except when it's riot time.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread

« on: May 28, 2020, 08:22:43 AM »

 

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread

« on: May 26, 2020, 12:47:41 AM »

It doesn't matter what the topic is/was, it's about the hypocrisy. Trump going golfing right now doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but he, and his current press secretary, made a big deal about Obama doing it when he was in office, and under circumstances that weren't even remotely as historic as those we've been experiencing lately.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread

« on: May 25, 2020, 06:37:52 PM »

Some hypocritical messaging from Trump and the new WH Press Secretary. Check out the two embedded Twitter videos. They're both pretty short:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kayleigh-mcenany-trump-barack-obama-golfing-covid-19_n_5ecae75ac5b6065ca9f094c2

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Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread

« on: May 20, 2020, 01:04:08 AM »

Yup^

It baffles me how you apparently don't see that Trump is literally doing what you're implying The Lancet is doing.

Is it really that baffling to read that and think "worst case scenario trump was just wrong about the Lancet"?

It was an official letter drafted by Trump and his team (almost certainly having almost zero input, from a substantive standpoint, from Trump himself). You don't just throw out names willy-nilly in such an official document. That calls into question (or at least it damn well should) all of the research (to the extent there was any) and claims of the remainder of the document. This is acceptable for grievances aired out at a PTA meeting, but not by the executive office of the POTUS.

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Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread

« on: May 20, 2020, 12:59:56 AM »

Now, implying the entirety of the statement is factually incorrect is some damned dishonest framing.

Isn't a core part of Trump's claim that these things happened in December of 2019 "or even earlier" ? Isn't that why they're so important (because of the supposed delay which reduced the opportunity to prepare)? Everything you're listing is from mid January. Also, who gets to decide what reports meet the threshold of "credible", from a medical science standpoint, between Trump's admin and the WHO? Which scientific body is it, or who are the experts on Trump's admin, that reached these conclusions? Other than The Lancet, who is Trump referencing? You're putting your stamp of approval on Trump's overall claims because of Twitter users/accounts you recall coming across?

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Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread

« on: May 19, 2020, 09:13:05 PM »

Florida Ousts Top COVID-19 Data Scientist

A data scientist who created a dashboard to track Florida's COVID-19 cases says she's been fired from the state's health department for refusing to "manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen."

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/19/859119865/florida-ousts-top-covid-19-data-scientist

Here is the Florida COVID-19 website - https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

I think what your are saying is - this website will no longer show certain data or the data will be changed to make things look better?

That's what the data scientist that created that site is claiming - I'm not saying anything.

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Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread

« on: May 19, 2020, 08:04:56 PM »

it says including reports by the Lancet

Trump cites "credible reports". He decides to list one specific name, and intentionally chooses a very reputable name in The Lancet. It turns out the one name he chooses, which presumably would be the most well-supported as far as his claim goes, is not remotely true.

There's something odd about that, and it smells like an agenda-driven "call out".

It baffles me how you apparently don't see that Trump is literally doing what you're implying The Lancet is doing.

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Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread

« on: May 19, 2020, 05:32:47 PM »

Florida Ousts Top COVID-19 Data Scientist

A data scientist who created a dashboard to track Florida's COVID-19 cases says she's been fired from the state's health department for refusing to "manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen."

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/19/859119865/florida-ousts-top-covid-19-data-scientist

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Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread

« on: May 19, 2020, 03:13:06 PM »

"When you fuck up so badly that a major scientific journal publishes a letter calling you out on your bullshit"

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread

« on: May 19, 2020, 10:35:35 AM »

Do things that appear retaliatory in nature offend you?

It depends.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread

« on: May 19, 2020, 12:55:53 AM »

Lots of talk about Biden and the Ukraine thing... Anybody gonna talk about all the firings the Trump admin has engaged in which appear retaliatory in nature? What about the latest with Pompeo getting the IG that was going to investigate him fired?

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Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread

« on: May 17, 2020, 08:23:07 PM »

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread

« on: May 16, 2020, 01:15:11 PM »

(Original footage is here)

Yeah, that was quite perplexing.