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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: Today at 02:38:48 AM »
Yeah but... what kind of an ASSHOLE wouldn't be grateful for aid at the moment? :D

Best way to get back at the governors who don't kiss your ass? Make the people of their states suffer!

Jokes / Re: Funny videos
« on: Today at 12:18:35 AM »
Requires sound (~40 seconds):

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 27, 2020, 11:42:44 PM »
"Trump says he's directed Pence not to call governors who aren't 'grateful' for federal aid"

Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:10:55 PM »
If his phone battery was dead, how did he know four units called him.

My guess would be that they informed him of that when they got there.

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 27, 2020, 12:43:29 PM »
"The Road to Coronavirus Hell Was Paved by Evangelicals"

I have a feeling you guys probably don't read the links I share, but if you want to read something on the NY Times website, if you're quick, you can hit the Esc key a few times as the page is trying to load to prevent the cockblock thing that prevents you from reading the article without signing in. There's probably an easier way to do this, but this is what I've been doing and it works alright.

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 26, 2020, 03:51:03 PM »
Better stock up

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 26, 2020, 10:01:49 AM »
He keeps blabbing on like the fucking pitch-man that he always is, and this is NOT the fucking time to be pitching people how great things are GOING to be.

Are you sure you're talking about the right Sam Harris? Sounds a little like Steven Pinker, but could be someone else too.

This is Sam Harris:*vSSMGRYuB2n1Unw6sg53bg.jpeg

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 26, 2020, 04:41:10 AM »
"If Your Doctor Spoke Like Trump" by Sam Harris (apparently)

So it seems you’ve tested positive for the Chinese virus, the so-called Covid NINETEEN, the Corona—nobody knows what to call it, quite frankly. It’s the most amazing thing, no one knew anything about Corona until a few weeks ago.

But the moment I heard about it—the Wuhan flu; it’s also the Wuhan, or WuHAAN—that’s a city in China. Many people don’t know that. But the moment I heard about this Chinese flu, I ordered a test. And it’s an amazing test. We do better testing than anywhere in the world. Some say the Germans have the best tests, but they don’t. Our tests are even better.

So you’re positive for Corona. And usually “positive” is a positive word—it’s a very good word, frankly. Everybody thinks it’s good, apart from what you hear on the news—which is fake. It’s largely fake. But in medicine, “positive” is not so good. So it’s very confusing. And I’ve always been very clear about that. Some say “positive” is always good, but I’ve never agreed with that.

So you’re positive for the Corona. But you’ll be fine. Totally fine. You might think you’re going to die—and everybody does die, eventually. But you’ll be fine. You feel fine, right? You won’t need a ventilator. There are no ventilators—but you won’t need one.

How old are you, 55? You won’t need one. Some people need a ventilator, and they’re amazing machines. Did you know the first ventilator was made by Henry Ford? It’s an incredible piece of equipment. But you’ll be fine.

The virus gets into your lungs, which is where you breathe. But you have two of them. Some say you have a spare. Some people only have one lung. It’s true. But I don’t talk about spares. I always want both. Given a choice, I want two lungs.

So I’ve asked nurse—what’s your name, Nancy?—I’ve asked nurse Nancy to keep you comfortable. And Nancy is one of our finest nurses. I mean, just look at her. Incredible, right? Nancy, you’re really incredible. You’re not afraid of Corona, are you, the Chinese Plague? I didn’t think so. Nancy will bring you whatever you need. And if you start coughing, do that into your elbow, so you don’t make a mess. Okay, you’re doing great. I’ll see you later.

Politics / Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« on: March 26, 2020, 04:29:57 AM »
moving this to politics

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 10:56:28 PM »
It would be good to see the wealth numbers of the Clinton's & Obama's before & after their Presidential terms.

It would be good to see Trump's wealth numbers before his Presidential term.

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 10:27:38 AM »
You really believe that? It took so long so they could make sure the evil orange man didn't get any of the money?

Do you think any of them said "this is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision" so let's use this crisis to our advantage, obstruct, and sneak in our various items we wish we could pass?

I think it was a bad time to try to implement components of the Green New Deal, if that's what some of those reported additions by Pelosi, or whichever Democrat it was, were. Yes, I absolutely believe that that had something to do with part of the delay, that they wanted to ensure that "the business fund would be distributed fairly and that Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin would not use it to help Trump and his allies." Trump is a crook, and is using his presidency to enrich himself, his friends, and his family. He didn't become president out of the goodness of his heart. I don't honestly understand why you wouldn't believe such a thing.

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 09:40:36 AM »
"Chuck Schumer made sure businesses controlled by Trump, his family, and top US officials couldn't get money from the government's $2 trillion coronavirus bailout fund"

"On Sunday, the president indicated that he had not ruled out congressional aid for the Trump Organization should the bailout funds become available."

That probably had something to do with the delay. They wanted some assurance that none of the funds would be diverted into Trump's properties, i.e. his pockets.

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 09:34:41 AM »
And WHY is she blocking the aid? The WHY's are fairly congruent.

She wasn't "blocking the aid", she was refusing to accept the terms as they were currently written. Trump was literally ordering aid to be blocked, and for totally different reasons. Nancy wasn't doing it solely to make a political opponent look bad so she would improve her odds in an upcoming election. This isn't me defending Nancy, it's me saying that meme made a dumb argument/comparison.

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 01:49:03 AM »

I thought Trump was impeached for why he withheld aid to Ukraine, not simply that it was done.

Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: March 24, 2020, 01:43:52 PM »
Full text from a Facebook post:

In the middle of a brutal sprawling pandemic, on a day when 100 Americans died and our confirmed cases topped 43,000, Republican lieutenant governor of Texas, Dan Patrick, went on Fox News and said that older Americans would be willing to die in order to preserve the economy; that the elderly are the acceptable collateral damage of boosting the Stock Market. Not coincidentally, this unthinkably macabre theory came on the same day that Donald Trump began suggesting he will send people back to work next week—even as doctors and scientists have been begging people to take self-isolation guidelines seriously because the virus is approaching uncontainable levels.

This is the repugnant sham of pro-life Christianity revealed in all its grotesque ugliness. This is what the Religious Right really thinks about human life: if the price is right, it is all expendable. This is the economy of soul capitalism: their money is worth your life. Other's supply can meet their greedy demand. For all their tearful, showy displays of phony religion, all their impassioned pleas about embryos in the womb being sacred—they will let sentient human beings with grandchildren and spouses and decades of wisdom, die on the altar of their 401Ks.

Jesus said, "You cannot serve both God and money." I never see these pro-life Christian Republicans wearing that verse on their chests or brazenly broadcasting on social media, because then they'd be forced to face their fraudulence, forced to admit their hypocrisy—and they'd have to confess that the teachings of Jesus and the sanctity of life aren't all that critical when there's a buck to be made.

Call me strange, but I don't think the sick or the elderly are expendable just so Republicans can hold the presidency or so some already wealthy people can become even wealthier. I don't see them as acceptable collateral damage of temporarily boosting the Dow or nudging Donald Trump's poll numbers. Maybe I'm not a "pro-life" Christian—just a decent human being who believes people living here right now, deserve to be here as long as they can. I don't give a damn about the economy if it costs us humanity. I'll be okay with that balance in my ledger.

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