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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: January 23, 2021, 04:20:44 PM »
The term "climate change" has different definitions depending on who is using it. It's the dumbest issue ever to listen to from MSM or the political arena.
Left "99% of all scientists agree climate change is real"
Right "it's a hoax"
Both can be true, both can be false. Everyone knows that it's currently getting warmer. The planet cools and warms naturally anyway, and mankind has increased the rate of our current warming period. Everyone should also know that nearly every grim short term projection has been tremendously off and "climate change" has been surrounded by partisan hoaxy bull shit. Another typical cc exchange:
Reporter to Trump: "Why don't you listen to scientists that tell you climate change is the biggest crisis and threat to humanity?"
Trump: "Of course I listen to scientists, but they don't all say that. Some say we're warming up, some actually say we're cooling down."
Again, both can be right. We are both on an overall cooling trend that's also on a brief warming spike
My stance is that both sides are wrong because they're not beginning the discussion like this:
We know that our planet is on an overall cooling trend, but is currently on a warming spike within this trend. Our planer's climate changes naturally like this. Mankind/civilization has increased the rate of this warming spike, but we're uncertain what will result from this. Party A presents the most credible evidence available, party B refutes/counters and makes the point that we must take a common sense approach to climate change since we're uncertain what it will bring. An approach that doesn't cripple our economy and actually targets the worst polluters/perpetrators of the world.
Anyone that doesn't view it like this is getting sucked into the fake news shit slinging show.
Left "99% of all scientists agree climate change is real"
Right "it's a hoax"
Both can be true, both can be false. Everyone knows that it's currently getting warmer. The planet cools and warms naturally anyway, and mankind has increased the rate of our current warming period. Everyone should also know that nearly every grim short term projection has been tremendously off and "climate change" has been surrounded by partisan hoaxy bull shit. Another typical cc exchange:
Reporter to Trump: "Why don't you listen to scientists that tell you climate change is the biggest crisis and threat to humanity?"
Trump: "Of course I listen to scientists, but they don't all say that. Some say we're warming up, some actually say we're cooling down."
Again, both can be right. We are both on an overall cooling trend that's also on a brief warming spike
My stance is that both sides are wrong because they're not beginning the discussion like this:
We know that our planet is on an overall cooling trend, but is currently on a warming spike within this trend. Our planer's climate changes naturally like this. Mankind/civilization has increased the rate of this warming spike, but we're uncertain what will result from this. Party A presents the most credible evidence available, party B refutes/counters and makes the point that we must take a common sense approach to climate change since we're uncertain what it will bring. An approach that doesn't cripple our economy and actually targets the worst polluters/perpetrators of the world.
Anyone that doesn't view it like this is getting sucked into the fake news shit slinging show.
