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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 23, 2020, 12:17:41 PM »
I work 84 hour weeks. I work in an industry that works alongside 20some companies and thousands of coworkers, anyone can go vote on election day. It isn't a thing. If your job is extremely demanding do your employer a favor and give him a heads up way ahead of time.  They'll make arrangements for you to be able to leave for 30 minutes. The state does not matter.

Absentee ballots are where the data comes from, punk.

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/absentee-ballot-fraud-stolen-election-greene-county-alabama

There is an example where it decided an election.  I posted a statistic a couple pages ago stating that absentee ballots have 2x more fraud/abuse than in-person. A substantial amount of votes are lost or are late in every experiment of postal voting. The fact of expanding absentee to all postal voting would encourage more abuse.

Let's say you and a million others win a million dollars, and someone asked if you wanted to pick it up down the street at your local fire department where they'll hand write you a check, or would you prefer to have it mailed from 1,000 miles way via the USPS like the other 700,000 people that opted for this method? The envelopes to each winner all look the identical with the same address and information on them. Which method would you prefer to receive your million dollars? Which would you feel is the most secure method?

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Politics / Re: Critical Social Justice & The Cult of Wokeness
« on: June 23, 2020, 10:42:11 AM »
It's just the start. I don't give a shit about the Confederate flag. It doesn't bother me in the least to make it's permanent location in museums. I think people that get worked up over it are silly, however, what if them standing up for that flag is their way of standing up to the slippery slope of change that is upon us? Toppling statues, burning books, and reeducation/reframing history. If Biden avoids the debates, and there's mail-in voting, he'll win 100% seemingly. The same people that cultivated and promoted everyone's hatred for trump are being allowed to pick the president through biden's VP nominee. We're at a certain stage in the book Animal Farm where they rewrite the law from "All animals are created equal" to "All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others", and everything is being restructured to the vision of the same people who manipulated us to be "orange man bad" zombies. It really didn't sink in for me until there has been radio silence from constitutionalist/libertarian leaning Republicans in office about everything that's happening.

I've been thinking about it for months now because my house has been increasing in value greatly, but I'm going to sell and move back to the isolated sandbar I grew up on. I don't want my kids growing up around that shit. We've already decided to homeschool for kindergarten. My oldest has never used or  heard the word "black" when referring to a person's skin color. He's never asked. He plays with all kids, and race is truly irrelevant to him. I'm not allowing him to be around crap:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xBUFcv0y0yk

So he asks shit like this:

I'm looking for the clip, it shows CNN discussing race with 6 year olds, and the little boy wants to be a neurosurgeon so he can perform surgery on racists to fix them.

So yeah this woke restructure can go fuck itself.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 23, 2020, 05:31:37 AM »
what effective impact is it going to have on the election's outcome? I don't think anyone thinks the level of fraud is going to be zero, regardless of measures taken to prevent it. What matters most is that fraud doesn't reach statistically significant figures, right?

Since it won't change effectively change the results of the election, then you should be ok with taking the choice that doesn't raise the ceiling for voter fraud and abuse. But, it's ok to increase fraud and abuse as long as it stays under a desired threshold? This makes absolutely no sense.

It is your choice to not acknowledge the flaws and dangers of postal voting to our elections. At least be honest about your choice though. Trump is inherently bad so any measures, even if they undermine our voting process, are ok because Trump's removal is all that matters.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 23, 2020, 05:20:18 AM »
It is your choice to not acknowledge the flaws and dangers of postal voting to our elections. At least be honest about your choice though. Trump is inherently bad so any measures, even if they undermine our voting process, are ok because Trump's removal is all that matters.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 07:20:20 PM »
It's not enjoyable for me to repeat things I've already addressed typing on a phone. I.e. it's not solely based off more people voting, I've anyway stated why several times.


https://youtu.be/tqqwTgk8ri0

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 06:41:01 PM »
Now that we've established that postal voting is a transparent attempt to tip the scales in favor of Democrats, let's talk about the downsides.

Are you sure you don't mean that attempts to resist postal voting is a transparent attempt by Republicans to stifle registered voters from exercising their constitutional right to vote because the odds are that it'll affect them negatively come election time?

Uhhhh... Yeah. This isn't a chicken or the egg argument. The democrats INITIATED this because they feel it will tip the scale in their favor, and yes it was very transparent. The Republicans, like any other political organization that has ever existed in their position, disagreed with their opposition.  :ubershock:  Only the rest of the majority left-leaning world agrees with the Republicans position on this: postal voting is regressive to the democratic process because of it's poor results and providing people with more tools to abuse the system and more opportunities to engage in fraudulent activity.

So yeah, I'm sure. I assume anyone who's not wearing their orange man bad goggles can see it clearly as well.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 05:44:43 PM »
There's a reason why all other countries have very strict voting laws. When you're the least strict country and you want to digress and ease up your laws even more, that should trigger a red flag in one's mind. But when people are so immersed in their hatred of trump they do silly things. I.e. ORANGE MAN BAD, AOC GOOD.

:Duhard:

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 05:12:20 PM »
I'll pick up from where I left off at.

Now that we've established that postal voting is a transparent attempt to tip the scales in favor of Democrats, let's talk about the downsides.

The USPS is slow and unreliable. Every single government run postal vote has had many ballots that are late and do not count, or never arrive at all. Far more than casting votes in person. Mail in votes get lost more and have more errors as well.

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Election administrators report that they must reject about 1% of the ballots cast in the United States because of errors. When mail-in or absentee ballots are getting counted, the inadmissible rate rises to 2%. The two most common issues seen are a failure to sign their affidavit and accidentally voting twice. 


We already suck with absentee ballots. It's astounding how little thought people like AOC have put into postal voting. If we can't even do absentee ballots successfully, how in the fuck do we expect to execute an all postal vote in the general election? We are going to fuck up cross-referencing 370 million signatures horribly. There will potentially be hundreds of thousands of people that did everything correct yet their vote will not be counted.

The security of the ballots drastically goes down. The potential for fraud and abuse multiplies. The amount of abuse that can happen from people just dropping their ballot in a drop box is limitless.

And all because the democrats think it will tip the scales in their favor, so it's ok because you hate trump? That's ridiculous. It's unamerican and anti-democratic. It's the DEMOCRATS who can't handle the election results, just like in 2016.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 03:56:23 PM »
I'm cooking. Quadz is likely listing the negative aspects of postal voting right now. The narrative suggesting that postal voting facilitates democracy to flourish or something and that I need to think about it, is an 8ft bed heaping load of horse shit. So I wanted to clarify from your stance that the benefits that come with that narrative outweigh the negatives of postal voting for you it seems.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 03:39:14 PM »
Because that's clearly what it is, not covid. We can protest but not go to vote?

If there's an ulterior motive for Democrats to be pushing mail-in voting, it's probably because a greater percentage of Democrats are likely to have jobs that prevent them from leaving work and going to vote on election day. Most retirees are Republicans. More business owners and wealthier people are Republicans. Mail-in voting would be more beneficial for Democrats, and that's why Republicans don't want it, and that's why Democrats want it.

If? It seems like you agreed there's a motive. There is no IF. So, that benefit must outweigh the negative aspects of postal voting then. That's what you're saying, correct?

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 03:27:03 PM »
What did trump say?

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On Monday, Trump tweeted: "Because of MAIL-IN BALLOTS, 2020 will be the most RIGGED Election in our nations history — unless this stupidity is ended. We voted during World War One & World War Two with no problem, but now they are using Covid in order to cheat by using Mail-Ins!"

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In a separate tweet, Trump said: "RIGGED 2020 ELECTION: MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WILL BE PRINTED BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES, AND OTHERS. IT WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF OUR TIMES!"

If/when he loses the election, he's going to insist it was rigged. I'll hearken back to me trying to explain his literal narcissism - unlike other presidents, he will not accept that another human being was chosen over him for the presidency. I'm not an expert by any means, but I don't think most people understand the magnitude of a literal narcissist accepting defeat, accepting that a majority of people viewed them as the worse, or inferior choice against anyone. Being wrong about something often stings for most anyone, but the egos of narcissists are incomprehensibly fragile to 'normal' people. This is the kind of blow that such an ego cannot take, and will not accept. The only possible rationale will be that he was cheated, that what was his (the election win) was unjustly stolen from him.

People argue, and I think it's a fairly well-supported argument, that Trump wanting so much to undue anything that had to do with Obama was largely influenced by Obama roasting him at the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner. Trump has repeatedly boasted about how much he relishes revenge, and getting even with people.

Have you researched mail in ballots? People in the US act like not having them "disenfranchises" and restricts voters, when the US has the least strict and lax voting system of any sovereign nation I've looked at. Mail-in ballots have been experimented with in either France or Spain recently in March but only reserved for people that are very I'll. In Australia they conducted a national survey with mail-in voting. The examples are few and far between. For some reason postal voting is being considered to be a right by the left and there's zero reason why we shouldn't do it. No one even thinks about the cons to postal voting, only that it hurts and pisses off trump apparently and covid is the perfect pretext for it.

Because that's clearly what it is, not covid. We can protest but not go to vote?  ::)

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Politics / Re: George Floyd
« on: June 22, 2020, 02:35:26 PM »
Haha I saw that this morning. I noticed Bubba Wallace is facing some criticism over whether the noose was legitimately put there by a fellow driver or a planted as a left-wing theater tool. Multiple celebrities are coming to his defense:


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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 02:21:13 PM »
What did trump say?

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 12:39:01 PM »
I think it's reasoning to be more skeptical this time around. Everyone seems to be doing the exact same thing though, and it's tough not to notice.

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Politics / Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« on: June 22, 2020, 12:22:50 PM »
Remember what happened the last time everyone assumed trump would lose?

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