I haven't brought vae up at all in discord. Here is what he's been saying in the last two days:
bak2basiks Can you just ban haunted at this point? I get annoyed when people shit talk about game stuff and won't back it up, or lie. I get actually pissed when some one tries to make it personal and starts sharing things that have NOTHING to do with the game.
bak2basiks: Since you really want to make it about haunted, the tdm server admin who was so mad he was losing to me on my worst map he rcon'd to admin to force more time and lost even harder, while talking shit the whole time... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmBwNzpCbkQ
As long as vae chimes in on threads acting like an elitist douche I'll call him out on all the lies he's spewed that harms what's most precious to him; his ego.
All he's gotta do is admit all of his lies or better yet prove he's telling the truth. The latter is impossible, and the first is too painful.
I searched my demos because you wouldn't stop harassing me to provide proof that I beat you. So I spent a little time to provide that proof.
I never asked you for proof that you beat me. This is twisted just like literally all of your post(jehar told us both to "hush", not just me. I "followed" you to a different discord because you were talking about me).
I asked you to prove a handful of claims of yours multiple times and you have proceeded to duck all of them:
When have you beat me by 20+ points, several times?
When have you beat me back to back?
When have you beat me in 2014?
When have you beaten me in 2013?
Prove that you made me rage quit"back to back" in the past 4 years. Please provide any information you have on this.
Provide proof that you "raped me off q2" (keep in mind, I provided proof that I won the last match we played in late 2012. Afterwards you refused all sets with me because I'm an "arrogant ass", easily seen on these forums).
How is calling you out on your obsessive slander of me and asking you to prove it harassment? You never proved any of what you've claimed. You posted your only 3 wins.
The "competitive", or lack thereof, q2 TDM scene has fallen a long ways from the "DEMO, OR STFU" days. Hopefully it's just you that's a lying sissy boy that wants to revise the past.
bak2basiks — 2/18/21 I'm a better player than you. No shit I talked shit.
bak2basiks — 2/18/21 I only raged out of that one league because you, as an admin who is a complete fuckin waste of air, wouldn't let me reschedule the game when real life interfered. Thats the infamous fucking vacuum incident that most people don't even realize I was 19 at the time and living at home while I went to school. (Loses match and blames it on mom vacuuming, still blames me till this day because I didn't void the match and allow him to replay his opponent/"reschedule because real life interfered")
bak2basiks — 2/18/21 You raged out of q2 entirely. You couldn't handle losing to me so you just fuckin left. Fucking hilarious.
bak2basiks — 2/18/21 I raged out of one league you lying piece of shit. I won the last competition I played in. I played in at least 2 others I didn't rage out of. I played in jehar's weekly shit for years when he was still doing that and rarely raged out.
bak2basiks — 2/18/21 Time doesn't stand still when you quit playing. Time didn't stand still when you were playing either. You were beating me with nades in early 2012, and by the end of 2012 I was beating you on dm1, which is my worse map and everyone knows this. I can post games of beating you back to back in your admitted peak of q2, and you will still deny I was better. It is like talking to a brick wall. I got even better after you left. Playing a not-rusty naymlis and not-rusty kickr0 every day.
bak2basiks — 2/18/21 You are obsessed with me. It is creepy. I have honestly considered calling the police because you obviously are not going to stop regardless of how much I ask. This is abnormal. Go have a life.
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I can post games of beating you back to back in your admitted peak of q2
Also vae: "I used a program to search in-game text/scores to find all of my wins against haunted and only found 3."
bak2basiks — 01/31/2021 Never claimed to be stable. But haunted's obsession with me is clearly on another level and he needs professional help.
bak2basiks — 01/30/2021 Man I take a nap and ex and haunted just drop in here to talk MORE shit on me and continue to harass me for zero reason. Ex hates tdm and duel and haunted hasn't played in years and stated he has no interest in playing a dead game again. Find something better to do with your time and get me out of your mouth. Grow the fuck up.
bak2basiks — 01/03/2021 Naymlis yes, rarely. Adrenaline was active in like 2015, has been playing QC or something I think because hes not in diabotical or quakelive either which is odd for him. Haunted hasn't played in like a decade and still talks shit on the forums.
bak2basiks — 01/03/2021 But hey if you listen to haunted i'm like the trashiest player to ever play quake so everyone beats me.
bak2basiks — 01/21/2021 @basho that screenshot cracks me up. Got haunted in there, the resident forum shit talker who probably hasn't played since around the time that screenshot was taken. Adrenaline is there, who got good and won some money in QL, wish he'd stop being MIA and just play more quake. Justin there spec'in when he actually had the stomach for real competition, now he just shoots around in ra2, ffa, and isnta mods. Mandingo is there lol forgot that guy existed and haven't seen him in probably 10 years. Haven't seen a syn tag in fuckin ages.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 @LiOn[tRk] thats called haunted, who only talks shit from the forum and hates me, blood, kyuss, and lots of other players better than him, was admin. IE he used official competition to just talk shit because hes a baby and cant let his gameplay speak for itself.
ex — 01/27/2021 Hmm... that's not how I remember the haunted-Vae/kyuss thing
ex — 01/27/2021 I remember watching demos of Vae hiding and refusing to advance on haunted in quite a few games.. one in mega room on q2dm1 in particular where Vae stood on a light post and refused to move until haunted came in and attacked
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 @ex why yes, haunted did play me in my first year to the game. I also was destroying him on dm1 consistently upwards of 20 frags by the time he gave up playing :smile:
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 Yeah, and in 2021 haunted does nothing but talk shit about games played 10 years ago completely forgetting all the losses he incurred with no intention of backing anything he says up and zero understanding that time does actually move forward and people get better as they continue playing.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 Biggest reason kyuss > haunted, kyuss has the balls to hop on and play and does so because the game is fun and not because he wants to relive some memories of being somewhat average many years ago unlike haunted.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 I kind of forget haunted exists until some one brings him up or he injects himself into a conversation on the forums where he always has nothing of value to add. Very forgettable foot note in quake2 history. Do have to say though, I get some entertainment out of chatting with all the people who are better than him that he seems to be fixated on in a game he doesn't play lol
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 @kyuSs I have seen the errors of my ways, and we should really be nicer to haunted. I didn't realize until just now how much he was impacted by not being liked in a game he quit playing a long time ago. If hes constantly reminded about how some people who he didn't get along with were better than him at a video game he doesn't play anymore, some bad things may happen and I really don't want to push anyone to that point.
haunted — 01/27/2021 Playing aliases then jerking off thinking you beat haunted :rofl::rofl: bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 aliased? Didn't know "haunted" was an alias.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 And nah I have demos, but I am actually worried about you haunted. You are actually obsessed with people who aren't your friends in a game you haven't played in years. Thats not healthy or normal.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 What does concern me is how unhealthy and abnormal haunted's behavior is. I don't think you realize that I'm not joking. This behavior, is not normal. I am here because I played q2 a couple of days ago and plan to play again at least a few more times this week. If you haven't played in 7 years, and have just spent this much time arguing about the game, then you really need to take a step back and rethink your life decisions.
ex — 01/27/2021 Vae you were the one that was talking about haunted many times over the years.. countless times you'd mention his name
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 As I stated previously, I forget haunted exists until some one brings him up or he interjects into a conversation saying something stupid on the forums. Recently both have happened, hence why I said something about him. Haunted isn't a quake2 player to me because he just hasn't played q2 in so long that I've seen new players join and surpass the level he was at multiple times.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 Haunted doesn't even make the list of notable players I've beat because he just isn't notable. He isn't relevant in quake2 past or present. The fact he keeps trying to make himself the center of attention points to the possibility of several additional mental health problems that stack on top of the already concerning obsessive behavior he displays.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 This shit started because some one was digging around the old nadl page and found a dumb joke that haunted posted on an official tournament page poking fun of me and kyuss, so I provided context that it was haunted who did it because he doesn't like me or kyuss, and is absolutely obsessed with both of us for some reason. I didn't just bring him up out of the blue because he doesn't occupy any of my mind space when it comes to quake. The only association in my mind with haunted is that hes a forum troll with some mental health problems and today I started connecting dots and have become very concerned about him.
bak2basiks — 01/27/2021 He gets brought up in conversation because he constantly lies to people on the forums, and inviting him here only furthered his platform. If haunted would just leave the quake2 community that he isn't even a part of, then he'd never be brought up again.
bak2basiks — 01/28/2021 Haunted been lying about me for many years. Pretty normal for him to refuse to play me now as well. Nothing new. Hes pretty much a giant hemorrhoid on the q2 community. Takes some special kind of mental illness to care so much about a game you admit to not even playing in the past 7 years, a different kind of mental illness to revise history to erase what actually happened, and even another type of mental illness to think time stands still and nobody can improve at something over the period of YEARS. Once he offs himself, I'm sure some one will find his brain abnormally interesting enough to study. His behavior is so far from normal and healthy it makes me feel bad for ever arguing with him.
bak2basiks — 01/30/2021 Man I take a nap and ex and haunted just drop in here to talk MORE shit on me and continue to harass me for zero reason. Ex hates tdm and duel and haunted hasn't played in years and stated he has no interest in playing a dead game again. Find something better to do with your time and get me out of your mouth. Grow the fuck up.
bak2basiks — 01/30/2021 and I don't think haunted or ex were good players, both pretty terrible honestly.
bak2basiks — 01/30/2021 Haunted been married less time than he's been away from quake and he has 2 kids. The more I hear, the more pathetic it is that he continues to harass some one for being better than him in a video game he hasn't played in years and has no interest in playing ever again.
bak2basiks — 01/30/2021 @untouch don't listen to haunted telling you no one plays tdm or that it isn't competitive, he hasn't played q2 in 7 years or something. We have relatively high skill 2v2's when the right people are online, like me and senz vs the clan trk guys (couple players who moved here from turkey, one of them is good). Naymlis still dropping in randomly means there is still a good wall to overcome for anyone who wishes to duel. Hoping kickr0 and blood once his internet is fixed in a couple weeks will add to that.
bak2basiks — 01/31/2021 Haunted is just actually brain damaged or severely mentally ill. Kyuss is just suffering from temporary lapse in judgement because I've come to expect much more from him and he just disappoints me right now.
bak2basiks — 01/31/2021 And...? If you can't see that I do that regularly then you are quite blind. Worked on you. Only reason anyone figured out I was bak2basiks was because haunted abused admin one day joining the server and checking IP, and I just gave up that new one then. Though it was still useful to use parts of it to be nice to players to get more games.
bak2basiks — 01/31/2021 No haunted, bagel bites did not make it personal. Feel like I'm talking to Patrick Star when ever I have to correct you.
bak2basiks — 02/07/2021 Haunted... here is the difference, your jokes aren't funny
bak2basiks — 02/07/2021 I still have zero fuckin clue why haunted is here. He's played less quake since joining than fury did and fury already ragequit out of the channel.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Haunted over here saying hes better than naymlis now? I knew he was brain damaged but wow, thats a new one
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Haunted, you really seem to ignore the fact that you are basically cancer in here. "You even tried to ruin the discord we use to get tdm/duel games going by doing nothing but cause drama since you got here."
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Haunted is a fucking waste of oxygen. If he doesn't have the decency to kill himself from his crippling mental illness then the least he could do is leave the fucking discord channel where all I wanted to do was help more people play quake2 tdm and duel.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Before haunted showed up, the most shit talk we had was residue with his obvious trolling that he and Lion would never lose, but he was actually playing and would try to back up his trolling whether he succeeded or not. After haunted showed up the channel has exploded into nothing but a drama filled cesspool.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 You know why I say I am better than you at quake2 haunted? Because I believe I am with every fiber of my being and the only way you will change my mind is by playing the game and beating me at my current peak. If you aren't willing to do that then don't argue with me.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 From my perspective haunted bringing up shit from nearly 10 years ago is way more pathetic than anything I could ever possibly do. Living in the past because he can't compete in the present.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 I would completely accept being banned from here if that also meant haunted and kyuss were banned.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 As long as haunted and kyuss are here, I will only watch quake2 burn.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Haunted will sit here and be a little cunt and tell me my game theory is shit, when he has ZERO idea of what I wrote to help new players. Let alone being able to point at any bit of text I wrote that is objectively false about the game. Expecting me to not defend myself with such baseless claims is expecting me to have zero backbone and roll over for the slightest resistance.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Before haunted showed up, good conversations used to happen in here. Like the one with david, me, and dirk on q2dm1. Even before that I went through and started a discussion about lower tier weapons and their application in tdm, then even went and spent an hour or two writing up a bunch of information on MG and SG and how SG was impacted differently by armor with the exact values you could expect.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Now its just all drama. Pretty sure banning haunted would solve 90% of the problems in here.
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 "Dude I'd rj for mh all the time if I want to beat some one to get something", you mean like I said when I mentioned that over a week ago? The context of saying you shouldn't do that was a fully controlled mega room with a teammate sitting in there 100/100 with chain and no enemies around. Can you stop trying to cause pointless drama for zero reason, haunted?
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Haunted, Look at the name of the channel... Is it drama ville? Is it haunted needs to insert his opinion where no one asked for it? Is it q2 highschool reunion? Nope, its q2 NA tdm 1v1. You don't play q2. Why are you here?
lightbeam — 02/08/2021 i know haunted raped you with grenades
bak2basiks — 02/08/2021 Haunted beat me with nades when I had played for 2 years, I been playing for more than 10 now.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Yeah rigg5 is good, and haunted just over here using him as an example of how bad he thinks dahang was in 2005. I like playing with rigg5. Particularly his ztn2dm2 game is awesome.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Haunted just shit talking everyone but gonna suck pope's dick so he has a friend in this argument.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Haunted, you are literally sitting here and talking shit on tons of good players just to prove a point that you dont think scooby is a duel player after I pointed out he won NADL. Like yeah I'm not gonna argue that dahang got better and I'm not gonna argue that scooby heavily preferred tdm, but saying some one isn't a duel player who can clearly compete in duel and then insulting everyone to make that point is pretty fuckin stupid.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 haunted has proceeded to the point in his paper thin argument where he tries to discredit me as a player cause he beat me a few times when I was brand new to quake....
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Yup haunted always talking shit, refusing to play, and acting like a general dick. Constantly for more than a decade.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Haunted absolutely lives to talk shit on stuff from 10-15 years in the past in a game he doesn't play, has no interest in paying, and hasn't played for 7 years (his own number).
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 basically this room in a nutshell since haunted joined... He just can't shut the fuck up about people from 10+ years ago in a game he doesn't even play.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Drama makes the normal players leave. Its only shit talking little bitches who can't win games that cause drama. IE haunted.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 I don't even mind people talking shit if its actually resulting in games. Before drama queen little bitch haunted showed up, we would have shit talking that resulted in 2v2 games and it was great.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 eh, I'll duel anyone here. You prob shouldn't listen to haunted though about anyones skill level unless you only care about 8 or 9 years ago at best.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 @kyuSs you should scroll up and look at haunted talking shit on a ton of good players while trying to reason that scooby wasn't a duel player. I'm sure you have some opinions.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Haunted literally quit playing q2 when I started winning every game we'd play.
haunted — 02/09/2021 The only thing that's funny is you beating aliases and saying OMG I just beat haunted!!! Time to beat off
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Haunted you have to seriously be brain damaged to think no one ever improves at the game and its all static. Heres a fuckin timeline for ya, you were beating me in 2011 and 2012. I stopped losing to you by the end of 2012 and kept getting better until like 2018 when duel kinda died out.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Haunted changing his story to suck pope's dick again. Haunted has stated multiple times he has no interest in playing what he htinks is a dead game, but he has continued to talk shit for years regardless.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Haunted does two things in here, cause drama and suck dick. Right now he's suck pope's dick while causing drama. He contributes nothing and is basically just the ass cancer of q2.
bak2basiks — 02/09/2021 Almost everyone that posts on the tastyspleen forums does so because they actively play the game. Except haunted.
bak2basiks — 02/18/2021 Haunted only capable of spreading lies about me too... Now he is telling everyone I quit out of every tournament. I quit out of one tournament specifically because he wouldn't let me reschedule a game. I competed in weekly duel events for years, winning several. Not to mention the other 4 or 5 duel tournaments I was in that happened for NA. If there were more I'd have played in more and won more. Can link brackets if his dumb ass is gonna keep spreading lies.
bak2basiks — 02/18/2021 Worth noting, the NA tdm/duel scene had a channel that was filled with active players, were getting games in almost every day, filled up a tdm server 16/16 one weekend, was sharing info on strategies and game mechanics, etc. Even had david chiming in and joining some conversations. Then haunted joined, when he doesn't even play, and just turned it into a drama cesspool. Games stopped happening, weekend games turned into maybe 2 or 3 people showing up, and now q2 scene in NA is basically dead again.
bak2basiks — 02/18/2021 I think my ability to put words on the screen pales in comparison to some dumb cunt who obsesses over a game he doesn't play, hasn't played in years, and has stated he has no interest in playing again. Maybe you should stop obsessing over me, haunted.
bak2basiks — 03/17/2021 What grudge match would I play? You? Because if you think a duel between me and you would be anything but me using you as target practice then you are dumber than I thought. Haunted? He doesn't play q2. He hasn't played in years.
bak2basiks — 03/17/2021 Nah kyuss isn't retarded and knows I'm better than haunted
bak2basiks — 03/17/2021 Haunted, my argument has NEVER been that I was always better than you. I started playing q2 in like late 2010, didn't really dive hard into it until like 2012/2013 which is where all your demos and shit talk is from. You hit your skill ceiling before I even started playing q2, and I kept improving all the way up through 2018 when the scene basically died again.
ex — 03/17/2021 he brings him up in the tdm channel which started all of this and got haunted in there, and now he wants to play it different... man oh man
bak2basiks — 03/17/2021 Lion linked to a post on the old NADL site where haunted was using his admin capabilities to shit talk me and Kyuss on there, I simply provided Lion context on who did it.
bak2basiks — 03/17/2021 Lying about what? Raping haunted? That definitely happened.
bak2basiks — 03/17/2021 Yes, because haunted had been playing me since I was brand new to q2. It takes time to catch up to a decade of experience.
robertos — 04/12/2021 @bak2basiks Win with haunted first, then maybe I'll invite you to duel. I also think you don't have big balls like your mouth and you wouldn't connect to a server in europe. Some of the guys from Q2 told me about you, you are a complete clown.
bak2basiks — 04/12/2021 Want a youtube link of me beating haunted so hard he rcon'd to vote more time then he still lost?
bak2basiks — 04/12/2021 You realize the only reason I left the q2 channel in question is cause people started doxxing me right? And the shit I talked in there was saying I raped haunted. Then I provided demos that I raped him. I was told it wasn't hard enough rape. Keep in mind this person hadn't played quake in 7 years and was losing to me back then, and I got way better and was winning cups and shit during those 7 years.
I think the clan name was (DZ). They were the most talented clan I remember seeing, they were awesome at Teams.
Dz and k9 were awesome from the pre-2003 post-(thresh/immortal/deathrow days). b|d, a top old school clan that was revived in 2005 for q2/q4 that included dahang, scooby, mik3d, and original member redeye is worth a mention, but competitive q2 was dead by that time.
When I was an active in game admin I was the vanguard for all these crazies. I feel kinda bad for quadz because he's far more busy and less amused by it than my younger self
If anyone wants a true savior, pray that my 20 year old self returns to systematically execute every single one of these loonies nades only ending with vaevictus.
Really you should have roku to get the most of your dish subscription so you can enjoy everything on demand in 4kUHD, plus everything the apps offer. As far as ditching dish, you just need one family member to have a dish subscription, then all of you get the benefits from roku lol. In a perfect world split the costs etc etc
For someone who liked John Adams on HBO, this depicts the other side of the story. It's all based on a true story too. After watching it I researched the story and I was blown away from the historical accuracy.
Fully recommend. This is up there with Outlander and expanse for our favorite series we've ever watched.
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