Quote from: dahangthere is no evidence to conclude that we are the only universe or that we were created by the most intelligent/powerful being imaginable that does not require an explanation for why it itself exists. so why did you make a choice on the side of god instead of the multiverse?why does what i believe have to be solely based on scientific evidence? i understand what science has explanations for, and i don't think they are applicable to a belief in god (one way or the other).
there is no evidence to conclude that we are the only universe or that we were created by the most intelligent/powerful being imaginable that does not require an explanation for why it itself exists. so why did you make a choice on the side of god instead of the multiverse?
we are going to have to find another explanation other than matter just being there, and an extremely improbable occurence.
Quote from: dahangthey are FAR less inclined to believe in god than a non-scientist.i've been trying to stay away from discussion like this, but i do want to add something. when i go to work, it seems almost no one believes in god, so i'm not sure how much of this has to do with science.
they are FAR less inclined to believe in god than a non-scientist.
do you believe that particles appear from nowhere and form life as know it, with no need for a cause, other than they are just there?
do you believe that
Quote from: metal on January 23, 2007, 11:16:02 PMomnipotence does not exist.. its just an abstract, radical concept that shares no relationship with God or man.Interesting - do you have some idea as to what God's inabilities, limits, and limitations may be?
omnipotence does not exist.. its just an abstract, radical concept that shares no relationship with God or man.
Quote from: quadz on January 23, 2007, 11:55:07 PMQuote from: metal on January 23, 2007, 11:16:02 PMomnipotence does not exist.. its just an abstract, radical concept that shares no relationship with God or man.Interesting - do you have some idea as to what God's inabilities, limits, and limitations may be?omnipotence possesses far too many paradoxes to be considered here. as elementary as it seems, performing some tasks will render certain other tasks both physically and logically impossible and unfathomable.
Everything has to have a beginningQuote from: DaHanG on January 24, 2007, 12:43:14 PMnot including god*
not including god*
A well-known scientist once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the Earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the centre of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy.At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise."The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?""You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"
Quadz - the scientific evidence that you refer to often does indeed support you, but is it 100% accurate/conclusive(I'm not saying all of it isn't)?