How reasonable do you find it to say that "God" was "just there"? How is that any different than the singularity being "just there"??????
i guess the question would be: how and why is the singularity always there?
No, what I mean is such an answer solves nothing.
bottom line: we have to accept what we see, no matter how improbable my birthdate/location was, it did indeed happen. and yes, in a sense by accident (i had no control over being born in Cairo, Egypt - Africa April 2nd, 992 BC).Quote from: reaper you could put it on a graph, and universes that can't sustain life would be more likely to form.
you could put it on a graph, and universes that can't sustain life would be more likely to form.
Quote from: dahangbottom line: we have to accept what we see, no matter how improbable my birthdate/location was, it did indeed happen. and yes, in a sense by accident (i had no control over being born in Cairo, Egypt - Africa April 2nd, 992 BC).Quote from: reaper you could put it on a graph, and universes that can't sustain life would be more likely to form.how is your birthday location improbable, your as likely to be porn in new york as you are china. in any event, i don't see your birthday being as improbable as the universe forming to sustain life. the order of magnitude is relevant when you talk about things happening by chance, also i would think different based on "what" happened as a result of chance.
then no one possible outcome is less likely than another
Quote from: quadzHow reasonable do you find it to say that "God" was "just there"?
How reasonable do you find it to say that "God" was "just there"?
The Universe didn't always exist--it had to be created by something! It was created by God. God didn't always exist--it too had to be created by something! And... (drum roll...) I have the answer!!!My Flying Spaghetti Monster created your God. See now neatly that wraps everything up? There can't possibly be any more unanswered questions. (You're not going to ask who created my Flying Spaghetti Monster are you?)god could of always existed, and everything has to have a cause but god. you don't infer
you can say everything has to have a cause but god.
Quote from: metal on January 23, 2007, 10:54:48 AManyone that believes in the big bang, in my opinion, has some serious mental issues.Fascinating. What's your opinion on General Relativity?Regards,
anyone that believes in the big bang, in my opinion, has some serious mental issues.
you can ask how and why the singularity is always there, and get the same results.
Quote from: quadz on January 23, 2007, 11:21:06 AMQuote from: metal on January 23, 2007, 10:54:48 AManyone that believes in the big bang, in my opinion, has some serious mental issues.Fascinating.
Quote from: metal on January 23, 2007, 10:54:48 AManyone that believes in the big bang, in my opinion, has some serious mental issues.Fascinating.
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Well--exactly. Smiley So why do so many people try to solve the question of the Universe always exsting, by saying, God always existed? What's the difference?
Quote from: quadzWell--exactly. Smiley
Well--exactly. Smiley
Really? To me there's exactly zero difference. Can you help me understand the nature of this huge difference you perceive?