Author Topic: Ye Religion Thread (Read 1058698 times)

DaHanG · « **Reply #735 on:** January 28, 2007, 01:03:45 PM »

string theory is beyond human comprehension (for now), but it still yields experimental results that are as accurate as measuring the united states accross to the width of a single human hair. just because we can't fully understand a given topic fully does not mean that we can't use certain aspects of it to our benefit in seeking the truth. just because we don't fully comprehend god does not mean he does not exist, or that we can't develop theories off it (look at almost every religion). we must never take a pessimistic attitude toward difficult subjects if we are to have any potential in finding the truth.

reaper · « **Reply #736 on:** January 28, 2007, 02:08:26 PM »

Quote from: dahang

string theory is beyond human comprehension (for now), but it still yields experimental results that are as accurate as measuring the united states accross to the width of a single human hair. just because we can't fully understand a given topic fully does not mean that we can't use certain aspects of it to our benefit in seeking the truth. just because we don't fully comprehend god does not mean he does not exist, or that we can't develop theories off it (look at almost every religion). we must never take a pessimistic attitude toward difficult subjects if we are to have any potential in finding the truth.

i agree with you - somewhat. you can take a step back and look at things at a larger scope, and it doesn't have to matter what's going on at small levels.

DaHanG · « **Reply #737 on:** January 28, 2007, 02:29:48 PM »

Quote from: reaper on January 28, 2007, 02:08:26 PM

since i believe in god, i'm going to need a reasonable explanation for the latter to change my belief. also, it looks at this point, as though something is required to fine tune this universe.

i must say it has to be hard to turn someone's belief without evidence into a lack of belief because of the lack of evidence.

reaper · « **Reply #738 on:** January 28, 2007, 02:40:27 PM »

Quote from: dahang

i must say it has to be hard to turn someone's belief without evidence into a lack of belief because of the lack of evidence.

evidence doesn't always have to be as tanglible as a bloody knife.

DaHanG · « **Reply #739 on:** January 28, 2007, 03:28:05 PM »

i agree.

reaper · « **Reply #740 on:** January 28, 2007, 03:39:09 PM »

this is why i wanted to talk about things less open to interpretation.

quadz · « **Reply #741 on:** January 28, 2007, 03:44:44 PM »

Quote from: metal on January 27, 2007, 07:55:01 PM

my sole belief is that there must have been some outside entity facilitating the creation of the universe (multi-verse?), as opposed to shit "just happening".

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reaper · « **Reply #742 on:** January 28, 2007, 03:50:40 PM »

Quote from: quadz

Clearly such an outside entity is too perfect to have "just happened". It must have been created. Obviously anyone who doesn't comprehend this is an idiot and is out of luck due to lack of common sense.

god is unworldey, so why god doesn't need a cause is beyond our comprehension, so on, and so forth. i don't understand why you don't agree with this. assuming you define god, as the creator of all things, who had the intent to create life.

DaHanG · « **Reply #743 on:** January 28, 2007, 03:52:39 PM »

Quote from: reaper on January 28, 2007, 03:39:09 PM

this is why i wanted to talk about things less open to interpretation. i'm interested in physics, and the ideas people have surronding it. so i'm not going to say, what evidence i think supports the existance of god. or argue that what you are basing your beliefs on is based on assumptions of the same kind (lack of evidence).

what are you studying at college?

computer engineering.

reaper · « **Reply #744 on:** January 28, 2007, 03:55:33 PM »

Quote from: dahang

computer engineering.

nice selection : P

i've been doing network engineering for about six years (i'm 26).

quadz · « **Reply #745 on:** January 28, 2007, 04:00:31 PM »

Quote from: reaper on January 28, 2007, 03:50:40 PM

god is unworldey, so why god doesn't need a cause is beyond our comprehension, so on, and so forth.

reaper · « **Reply #746 on:** January 28, 2007, 04:13:15 PM »

Quote from: quadz

Because it's exactly the same as saying, God was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, who is meta-unworldey.

quadz · « **Reply #747 on:** January 28, 2007, 04:28:33 PM »

Quote from: reaper on January 28, 2007, 04:13:15 PM

no i don't agree. we are assuming there is a god.

But WHY are we assuming there's a god??? (Weren't we assuming there was a God, because of something?)

reaper · « **Reply #748 on:** January 28, 2007, 04:41:32 PM »

Quote from: quadz

no i don't agree. we are assuming there is a god.

But WHY are we assuming there's a god??? (Weren't we assuming there was a God, because of something?)

why we are assuming a god, is because metal is saying your an idiot

(which i don't agree with btw). why i assume there is a god, is based on reasons very open to interpretation. my idea of god, is not based on science. however you could assumd the universe has to be fined tuned in order for life to exist, so god would be the "entitiy" doing the fine tuning.

quadz · « **Reply #749 on:** January 28, 2007, 04:49:27 PM »

Quote from: reaper on January 28, 2007, 04:41:32 PM

you could assumd the universe has to be fined tuned in order for life to exist, so god would be the "entitiy" doing the fine tuning.

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