first of all, science cannot disprove god. it also cannot disprove the flying spaghetti monster. you basically said it's unlikely there wasn't a god because things are too complex for there not to be. that has nothing to do with the big bang theory (theory of how the universe began). luckily, the darwinian explanation elegantly blows your questioning of the complexity of things out of the water. modern theologians do not ask "how do you explain the flowers/humans/birds/oceans/mountains/etc." anymore because we now know why. they have resorted all the way back to "why is there something instead of nothing?" - (god must be responsible). as the inifinite regress subject pops up again, we keep in mind that there is indeed something. but who's to say it came from nothing? as hard as it is to accept that there was always matter/energy in some form, it's much harder to accept that there was a divine being that always existed outside of time. it's a superfluous hypothesis, and really does not explain anything.
the witch trials had little to do with religion and a whole lot to do with politics
you basically said it's unlikely there wasn't a god because things are too complex for there not to be. that has nothing to do with the big bang theory (theory of how the universe began). luckily, the darwinian explanation elegantly blows your questioning of the complexity of things out of the water.
the darwinian explanation does not blow my questioning out of the water - rather it enforces it.
the current big bang theory isn't a series of an astronomical amount of events (forumulations of a universe).
But what is often overlooked, is that genetic + darwinian evolution is NOT a random process.So the complexity that evolved didn't happen just "by chance".
Where did you get that?
Quote from: quadzBut what is often overlooked, is that genetic + darwinian evolution is NOT a random process.So the complexity that evolved didn't happen just "by chance".but it's a process that probably won't get things "right" in one try - that was my point anyways
whatever happens at the start of the big bang, there are certainly billions of possibilities to form a universe where there isn't earth like planets.
I hate to be too pedantic, but.... Quote from: c1rcu1try on December 14, 2006, 10:42:28 PMwe know that there is no "hand of god" keeping the universe in motion.It's not possible to know whether there is a "hand of god" or not. It may be possible to know a Grand Unified Theory that indicates no "hand of god" is needed, however.
we know that there is no "hand of god" keeping the universe in motion.