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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2007, 07:41:15 AM »
i got q2 working, just reinstalled the drivers (onboard video).. still no sound, hmm..
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2007, 08:18:02 AM »
i got q2 working, just reinstalled the drivers (onboard video).. still no sound, hmm..

I was gonna recommend that. I got that error out of r1q2 any time I tried opengl, before I figured out how to fix it.

Good to see that you're almost there..

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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2007, 09:35:30 AM »
so i've installed the sound drivers (integrated "HD" audio lol), rebooted, tried the computer speakers and my headphones in every headphone jack, nothing.. i just hear a humming sound
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2007, 09:44:38 AM »
so in device manager there is no yellow bangs?  :!:

is it muted?

try strictly using the back of the computer to plug into. make sure you are plugging in a headphones connector in the sound jack (green normally?) and not the mic jack. ;p
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2007, 09:53:27 AM »
HA! got it. there were no yellow bangs in the sound department, but i saw one under "system interrupt controller" not sure what that means.  i have 2 sound outputs green and yellow, the yellow one works i know.  i was in the green one before.. there is also the red microphone hookup as well.. hopefully this is it
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2007, 10:27:42 AM »
q2 runs fine at decent settings (for me) at a steady 125 fps.  however, within a few minutes everything just freezes.  on haunted's screen it looked as if i was lagged and eventually timed out and disconnected, so it says.. but i was still locked up. i couldnt f10, esc, or ctrl alt del my way out. had to power down.. no idea what this is.. and there will also be a sound in the background, like someone is shooting a fully automatic laser (hyperblaster-ish? lol)

EDIT: this windows xp is 64-bit.
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« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2007, 10:44:30 AM »
Maybe try regular Windows XP instead of the Windows XP 64-bit.  I've heard of horror stories regarding the 64-bit OS.
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2007, 10:57:32 AM »
could be the integrated sound card taking a shit... that's an odd crash though.

I've gotten the repeating sound upon lockup before, but never had the crash totally stop me from using ctrl+alt+del or alt-tab.
(this was due to a wierd problem I was having with certain maps and OSP's gladiator bots so I doubt it's applicable)

need more info!

does it do the same thing consistently, or is it unpredictable?
what client and renderer .dll are you using?
can you post your config?


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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2007, 11:07:47 AM »
Maybe try regular Windows XP instead of the Windows XP 64-bit.  I've heard of horror stories regarding the 64-bit OS.


Has nothing to do with 64bit. 64bit is pretty much going to be the standard and the only horror stories that really exist came from when the OS was first released (as always). But now pretty much every major  company has caught up and has released working 64bit drivers.

I run 64bit Windows now and I've ran it since the release of it. I never had a single problem with any of the programs I used before 64bit, including Quake 2.

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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2007, 11:54:27 AM »
Well, I was talking about horror stories of bad drivers and the OS.  Maybe some of his drivers don't work properly on it or he just needs different drivers. *shrug*
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2007, 01:13:16 PM »
does it do the same thing consistently, or is it unpredictable?
what client and renderer .dll are you using?
can you post your config?

This happens every time about a minute into play and seems impossible to recover from once it has crashed.  i'm using r1q2 currently and plain old "gl" mode.

here is my autoexec. its a really big mess, and i've tried to add lines here and there that i find on the internet that i've heard will help performance.. but that was when i was on that old laptop.  there are plobably thousands of repeats in there too lol

set vid_optimalrefresh "1"
set vid_ref "gl"
set sw_mode "3"
set gl_mode "3"
set hostname "dave"
set sv_reconnect_limit "3"
set vid_xpos "3"
set vid_ypos "22"
set vid_gamma "0.600000"
set sw_stipplealpha "0"
set s_volume "0.80"
set s_khz "22"
set s_mixahead ".2"
set s_primary "1"
set cd_nocd "1"
set adr0 "67.19.248.74:27930"
set adr1 "67.19.248.74:27931"
set adr2 "69.9.168.4:27930"
set adr3 "69.9.168.4:27940"
set adr4 "66.165.113.40:27910"
set adr5 "67.19.248.74:27990"
set adr6 "67.19.248.74:27912"
set adr7 "64.83.49.69:27910"
set adr8 "66.165.122.217:27910"
set cl_stereo_separation "0.4"
set freelook "1"
set fov "105"
set in_mouse "1"
set in_joystick "0"
set allow_download "1"
set allow_download_players "0"
set allow_download_models "0"
set allow_download_sounds "0"
set allow_download_maps "1"
set gender "male"
set gender_auto "1"
set cl_vwep "1"
set gl_ext_palettedtexture "0"
set gl_driver "opengl32"
set gl_finish "1"
set gl_particle_min_size "0.001"
set gl_particle_max_size "0.001"
set gl_particle_size ".001"
set gl_particle_att_a "0.001"
set gl_particle_att_b "0.001"
set gl_particle_att_c "0.001"
set gl_texturemode "GL_NEAREST"
set gl_texturealphamode "default"
set gl_texturesolidmode "default"
set gl_texturemode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"
set gl_vertex_arrays "0"
set gl_ext_swapinterval "1"
set gl_ext_multitexture "1"
set gl_ext_pointparameters "1"
set gl_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1"
set gl_swapinterval "0"
set gl_3dlabs_broken "1"
set gl_screenshot_jpeg_quality "100"
set gl_ext_multitexture "0"
set skin "male/../athena"
set lookstrafe "1"
set lookspring "1"
set in_mouse "1"
set msg "1"
set m_pitch ".022"
set hand "2"
set cl_run "1"
set crosshair "1"
set sensitivity "8"
set win_noalttab "0"
set vid_fullscreen "1"
set viewsize "100"
set gl_clear "1"
set cl_gun "0"
set cl_particles "1"
set gl_dynamic "0"
set gl_shadows "0"
set gl_ztrick "1"
set gl_flashblend "0"
set gl_polyblend "0"
set cl_blend "0"
set in_joystick "0"
set gl_cull "1"
set gl_round_down "0"
set gl_skymip "7"
set cl_footsteps "1"
set rate "10000"
set cl_maxfps "90"
set intensity "3.0"
set m_filter "1"
set bob_pitch "0.0000"
set bob_roll "0.0000"
set bob_up "0.0000"
set run_pitch "0"
set run_roll "0"
set in_joystick "0"
set gl_cull "1"
set gl_skymip "10"
set s_mixahead ".2"
set s_primary "1"
set s_khz "22"
set s_loadas8bit "1"
set cd_nocd "1"
set gl_bitdepth "0"
set gl_playermip "0"
set gl_ext_palettedtexture "1"
set gl_round_down "1"
set s_mixahead ".15"
set s_primary "1"
set s_khz "11"
set cd_nocd "1"
set cl_footsteps "1"
set intensity "3.4"
set gl_modulate "45"
set gl_playermip "0"
set cl_noskins "0"
set cl_timers "1"
set cl_timer_backpack "0"
set cl_timestamp "0"
set cl_showtime "1"
set cl_showfps "1"
set ch_blue "1"
set ch_green "1"
set ch_red "1"
set ch_scale "1"
set ch_pulse "1"
set ch_alpha "1"
set ch_x "0"
set ch_y "4"
set cl_vwep "1"
set cl_kickangles "0"
set in_dinputkeyboard "1"
set cl_railtrail "0"
set win_priority "2"
set cl_autorecord "0"
set m_fixaccel "1"
set m_directinput "0"
set gl_coloredlightmaps "0"
set cl_cmdcomplete 0
set cl_async 0
set gl_picmip "1"
set cl_smoothsteps 2
set cl_protocol 34
set s_ambient 0

like i said some of the lines are worthless or probably arent even for q2 haha, i've done a shit load of copy/pasting over the years and have never kept track of dumb commands and repeat lines
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2007, 03:01:03 PM »
well you've got some redundant sound control values and a few odd values here and there.
and some of them are either conflicting or incorrect..

I'd take out the "set s_khz" ones that are set to "11" khz as I think q2 can only handle 22 and 44..
Keep all these ones and delete any of their duplicate values from your config:

set s_volume "0.80"
set s_khz "22"
set s_mixahead ".2"
set s_primary "1"
set s_loadas8bit "0"
set s_initsound "1"

Use the search/find feature of notepad to locate the others and wipe em out..

here's some other oddities:

set ch_blue "1"
set ch_green "1"
set ch_red "1"
set ch_scale "1"
set ch_pulse "1"
set ch_alpha "1"
set ch_x "0"
set ch_y "4"

I'm not exactly sure that these work with r1q2..
I'm assuming they are crosshair related.. probably nothing wrong with having them in there..

you have at least one extra of all of these settings:

set in_mouse "1"
set in_joystick "0"
set cl_footsteps "1"
set cl_vwep "1"
set cd_nocd "1"
set intensity "3.0"


these should be set to zero now that you are playing in fullscreen:

set vid_xpos "3"
set vid_ypos "22"

this one can be deleted because you also have the correct one in there:

set cl_showfps "1"


this one is kinda odd but it could be legit since you seem to be using a male model:

set skin "male/../athena"

usually it would just say:

set skin "male/athena"

unless your skin is in some other directory..





also, you might want to use ref_r1gl.dll instead of the standard ref_gl.dll as well...
so change this:

set vid_ref "gl"

to this:

set vid_ref "r1gl"


strangely, none of these should be causing q2 to crash..
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« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2007, 05:14:58 PM »
The annoying thing is that each time after a hardware/system upgrade I'm always getting serious Q2 crashes, similar to what you describe. When I somehow get the game up and running again I usually can't even remember what I did to solve the problem:/
The last time I upgraded to a new vidcard the game began to freeze, hang, crash and whatnot. Most of the times it was related to newer GL drivers having trouble(?) with older GL games like Q2. It's not unlikely that by using the same config file after a hardware upgrade an obsolete renderer for Q2 is loaded by default.
You can always just delete the config.cfg from the baseq2 dir and then start the game; it will start in software mode and automatically create a new default cfg. (Problem is you'll have to reset the controls and other stuff.) Once in the game, go to video settings and choose "r1gl".

It would probably also be wise to take a look at the system logs:
Start -> run...
then type: eventvwr.msc
(Or rightclick "my computer" and select "manage". Go to "system tools" -> event viewer.)

Look for any errors (red signs) in the 'application' and 'system' logs, there probably is an error with the date of the latest crash in there. Oh and when doing a web search include the Event-ID#.
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« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2007, 08:09:32 PM »
First of all, I looked back through the thread, and j
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Re: Windows 98??????
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2007, 08:43:14 PM »
who says you cant play quake2 on onboard?
i played in opengl with 600mz celeron 128mb sdram and a 5mb onboard piece of shit in 800x600 years ago :)

the onboard cards are way better now then they were back then
theres no reason

and if your implying that 64-bit systems will make things run faster, you are grossly mistaken :)
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