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Re: Ye Religion Thread
« Reply #1860 on: May 06, 2008, 05:04:13 AM »
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« Reply #1861 on: May 06, 2008, 06:25:42 AM »
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« Reply #1862 on: May 06, 2008, 07:16:05 AM »
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« Reply #1863 on: May 06, 2008, 11:38:20 AM »
Gone fishin........

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Re: Ye Religion Thread
« Reply #1864 on: May 06, 2008, 12:13:23 PM »
Heathens! O:-)
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« Reply #1865 on: May 06, 2008, 01:44:55 PM »
Heathens! O:-)

I prefer the term "faith-free".  8)
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Re: Ye Religion Thread
« Reply #1867 on: May 09, 2008, 09:22:49 AM »
Greetings!

Picked up this book, The God Delusion, at the airport last night.

Very enjoyable so far.  :thumbsup:

A+++ WOULD BUY AGAIN

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Re: Ye Religion Thread
« Reply #1868 on: May 09, 2008, 11:03:31 PM »
Greetings!

Picked up this book, The God Delusion, at the airport last night.

Very enjoyable so far.  :thumbsup:

A+++ WOULD BUY AGAIN

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Wow, you're a little late!

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Nevertheless, enjoy the book.

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« Reply #1869 on: May 09, 2008, 11:58:39 PM »
Wow, you're a little late!

Oops... had you already posted about that here?  :-[  I did a forums search for "god delusion" but didn't get any relevant hits...


Nevertheless, enjoy the book.

Reading the book on the plane last night, I found myself tempted to type whole pages worth of quotations into this thread...  :dohdohdoh:

Just a variety of stuff... I was raised with the notion that the U.S. founding fathers were Christian theists, for example.  (We had a Jefferson Bible.)  . . . So it was very interesting to see much more nuanced positions were taken by Jefferson, Adams, etc. in their own words.  (Letters to relatives, etc.)

And I loved the few pages devoted to the uproar over the "12 cartoons of the prophet"...

I've been impressed by the way Dawkins can often just destroy (unravel the logic of?) commonly accepted viewpoints with a well-chosen counterexample in just a few words...

But anyway - yes, I'm enjoying the book.

P.S. a favorite quote mentioned in the book--not attributed to Dawkins, but I forget who...

"BLASPHEMY IS A VICTIMLESS CRIME"

Awesome. :)

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« Reply #1870 on: May 10, 2008, 10:49:05 AM »
Wow, you're a little late!

Oops... had you already posted about that here?  :-[  I did a forums search for "god delusion" but didn't get any relevant hits...

Late in general  ;)
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« Reply #1871 on: May 10, 2008, 11:23:20 AM »
from the God delusion wiki:
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He writes that one of the greatest challenges to the human intellect has been to explain "how the complex, improbable design in the universe arises", and argues that there are two competing explanations:

A theory involving a designer, that is, postulating a complex being to account for the complexity that we see.
A theory that explains how from simple origins and principles, something more complex can emerge.
This is the basic set-up of his argument against the existence of God, the Ultimate Boeing 747 gambit,[15] where he argues that the first attempt is self-refuting, and the second approach is the way forward.[16]
"

there is no good scientific evidence concerning how the universe initially came to be, so this isn't nearly as strong of a point he makes it out to be.  i would trust my instincts, especially after reviewing the evidence to the contrary, and realizing it supports my beliefs (that there is a god, concerned with human behavior, something like we our the center of the universe)



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« Reply #1872 on: May 10, 2008, 11:34:16 AM »
Late in general  ;)

Oh. :)

Well as the song goes, I don't FEEL tardy...

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« Reply #1874 on: May 10, 2008, 04:59:03 PM »
from the God delusion wiki:
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He writes that one of the greatest challenges to the human intellect has been to explain "how the complex, improbable design in the universe arises", and argues that there are two competing explanations:

A theory involving a designer, that is, postulating a complex being to account for the complexity that we see.
A theory that explains how from simple origins and principles, something more complex can emerge.
This is the basic set-up of his argument against the existence of God, the Ultimate Boeing 747 gambit,[15] where he argues that the first attempt is self-refuting, and the second approach is the way forward.[16]
"

there is no good scientific evidence concerning how the universe initially came to be, so this isn't nearly as strong of a point he makes it out to be.  i would trust my instincts, especially after reviewing the evidence to the contrary, and realizing it supports my beliefs (that there is a god, concerned with human behavior, something like we our the center of the universe)

What you quoted wasn't scientific evidence, just a common sense argument.

I've never heard of any evidence to the contrary...
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