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quadz · « **Reply #2685 on:** November 06, 2010, 02:48:09 PM »

Quote from: |iR|Focalor on November 06, 2010, 01:03:56 AM

Someone posted this link in #tastyspleen. It was way too LOL not to share.

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|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #2686 on:** November 06, 2010, 05:13:57 PM »

You know, that makes me think a little...

If a person is a member of Christian church, accepts Jesus as their savior in front of the entire congregation, is told by the pastor/minister that they will go to heaven or be raptured, and the rapture occurs and that person is not raptured... can they sue that church in a court of law? Maybe I should start studying law, become a lawyer, and have these people have me on retainer in case of such a thing.

Slick Lawyer · « **Reply #2687 on:** November 06, 2010, 05:19:35 PM »

My firm would be glad to have an enterprising around-the-side-of-the-box thinker like yourself. You're already a scumbag with no morals, you're halfway to being a lawyer as it is.

Heckle, Finkman, and Focalor: For the people... left behind.

The Dreaming Dragon · « **Reply #2688 on:** December 16, 2010, 09:36:48 AM »

http://videosift.com/video/Jesus-The-Revenge

The Dreaming Dragon · « **Reply #2689 on:** January 02, 2011, 08:52:43 AM »

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/pantheons-of-gods.php

quadz · « **Reply #2690 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:52:26 PM »

|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #2691 on:** January 10, 2011, 11:20:44 PM »

"God helps those who help themselves."

To help myself, I must help me. Therefore: I am God.

You may all begin worshiping me now. Thank you.

Arm0r · « **Reply #2692 on:** January 20, 2011, 04:22:28 PM »

The name of the youtube video is Scientific Proof of God...that name alone would raise flags but I encourage you anyone with about an hour on their hands to watch it, brings up some very VERY interesting arguments. Would love to hear comments and opinions on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppIgFEFUpjw

|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #2693 on:** January 20, 2011, 05:22:26 PM »

Maybe later tonight when I'm good and loaded and looking for a hearty chuckle.

Arm0r · « **Reply #2694 on:** January 22, 2011, 02:11:29 PM »

Intelligent Design Documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CBtAUg69pg&feature=channel

even more interesting than the last video I posted, this one has some of the same info and even some of the same footage but it is very convincing proof of design.

Arm0r · « **Reply #2695 on:** January 22, 2011, 02:19:44 PM »

like my mind is blown lol

someone please watch it and comment! haha

quadz · « **Reply #2696 on:** January 22, 2011, 03:31:21 PM »

Quote from: Arm0r on January 22, 2011, 02:19:44 PM

someone please watch it and comment! haha

I downloaded the first video and skimmed through it. The second one is still loading...

The first video appears to make all the standard creationist claims. Essentially: "X" is really complex, therefore God. Or: Science cannot yet explain "Y", therefore God.

How did the DNA molecule originate? Look, it's a bacterial flagellum! Aren't the physical universal constants finely tuned? Boy, the Cambrian explosion produced a lot of diverse species in a short amount of time! The eye is really complicated! This must be the work of an intelligent designer.

(OK, about 1/2 of the second video has loaded so far... Look, it's a bacterial flagellum!

)

Counterargument from a biologist: 'Design vs. Chance' by PZ Myers
'Design vs. Chance' by PZ Myers

Counterargument from an astrophysicist: Neil deGrasse Tyson - The God of the Gaps and Neil deGrasse Tyson - The Perimeter of Ignorance (audio only)

Regards,

quadz

Arm0r · « **Reply #2697 on:** January 22, 2011, 03:39:50 PM »

If the second video holds any weight, all cells are created and made by information stored in the DNA...so how would a cell come about without DNA guiding it, even the most simple cells have thousands of protiens that are arranged in a way that would be impossible without DNA. So my question is, how do you make a living cell without the assistance of DNA? To say it's by chance would be on par with saying the statue of liberty has a chance of assembling itself, it being worlds less complicated than even a simple cell I just fail to see how it's possble....people can argue all day about evolution and how things come to be how they are but I'm more interested in the single first cell and it's construction which in my opinion is impossible without information in DNA. In fact, natural selection doesn't even exist without DNA so I also don't understand how anything can be "selected" to create a cell without DNA.

QwazyWabbit · « **Reply #2698 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:00:45 PM »

Natural selection enters into it because DNA surrounded by cellular material is more survivable than naked DNA. "Selection" is a bad word from the standpoint of evolution because it implies a selector and a selectee, "God chose Abraham." Species "choose" their traits. Nature "selects" the survivor. The truth of the matter is that random processes occur within nature, (chaos) and the fruit of the process and survival pressures leads to a species that is better equipped to survive in the habitat that arises.

If the oceans were a soup of DNA and the chemical composition favored the survival of a DNA molecule that coded for a cellular wrapper and a nucleus then that DNA is more fit to survive and multiply and pass that trait on to successive copies of itself. Viral DNA is like this. The fact that viruses are opportunistic invaders of other living hosts is also the result of evolution.

Unless you believe that a loving God created the viruses and bacteria that cause Malaria, the Bubonic plague, Influenza, Polio, Smallpox and the myriad other diseases in Man because God loves man and only wants good for Man.

Arm0r · « **Reply #2699 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:13:08 PM »

I'm not arguing for or against god here, in fact I believe if you took god from the equation the question would still be: How do you create even a simple cell without DNA....did the first cell create by chance then all of a sudden come to the conclusion "well I need DNA to reporduce", DNA being essentially a big data base of information where did all this intricate information come from? The coding in DNA is more complex than any program we have written today, in fact alot describe it to be long enough to fill a couple hundred pages in a book just in raw code form. DNA is without a doubt complex, without DNA there is no cell so how can a cell form without DNA.

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