I see plenty of progress..."The American Religious Identification Survey recently found the number of people who claimed "no religion" had nearly doubled nationally over the last 18 years, to 15 percent. They were the only demographic that increased in all 50 states."The rest of your post is so dumb it's not even worth addressing, this sentence alone is almost too much acknowledgment.
There may be a lot of atheists on this forum, but this is just a forum. In the real world I don't see much progress. In fact, I'd bet most of society (the parts of society doing well), probably thinks your views are crazy. You can come back with the funny numbers about scientists not believing in god, but clearly "god" isn't going anywhere.
1)Take a look at WWII, if people were athiest, and weren't serving the lord, we'd be fucked - welcome to reality
2) People like Jefferey Dahlmer do exist
and look at the prisoners, yeah they're crazy, but take away the 'fear of god' from them and watch what they do
p.s,I could care less if there is a god or not.
I"m not sure what this obsession with evidence is
reaper, please tell me you are just trolling at this point. You've made these same claims previously on this thread, and each time, (a) you fail to provide evidence in support of your claims; and (b) evidence is provided by others which undermines your claims.
There may be a lot of atheists on this forum, but this is just a forum. In the real world I don't see much progress. In fact, I'd bet most of society (the parts of society doing well), probably thinks your views are crazy. You can come back with the funny numbers about scientists not believing in god, but clearly "god" isn't going anywhere.Quote from: quadzThis claim has already been contradicted by data showing the world's nations having the highest percentage of nonbelievers in their population, also tended to rate most favorably on metrics which included: Political instability; Level of disrespect for human rights; Potential for terrorist acts; Number of homicides per 100,000 people; Level of violent crime; Likelihood of violent demonstrations; Number of jailed population per 100,000 people; etc.So please stop talking out your ass. If you are going to keep making the claim above, then please provide evidence to support it.
This claim has already been contradicted by data showing the world's nations having the highest percentage of nonbelievers in their population, also tended to rate most favorably on metrics which included: Political instability; Level of disrespect for human rights; Potential for terrorist acts; Number of homicides per 100,000 people; Level of violent crime; Likelihood of violent demonstrations; Number of jailed population per 100,000 people; etc.So please stop talking out your ass. If you are going to keep making the claim above, then please provide evidence to support it.
Take a look at WWII, if people were athiest, and weren't serving the lord, we'd be fucked - welcome to realityQuote from: quadzThis claim has been addressed previously by pointing out several inconvenient facts. Most nazis were Christian. Anti-semitism has its roots in Christian dogma. The Catholic church ordered every priest and bishop in Germany to celebrate Hitler's birthday from the pulpit every year until the end of the regime. Not to mention the church's cozy association with Fascism and Mussolini.Again, please stop talking out your ass. If you are going to keep making the claim above, then please provide evidence to support it.
This claim has been addressed previously by pointing out several inconvenient facts. Most nazis were Christian. Anti-semitism has its roots in Christian dogma. The Catholic church ordered every priest and bishop in Germany to celebrate Hitler's birthday from the pulpit every year until the end of the regime. Not to mention the church's cozy association with Fascism and Mussolini.Again, please stop talking out your ass. If you are going to keep making the claim above, then please provide evidence to support it.
and look at the prisoners, yeah they're crazy, but take away the 'fear of god' from them and watch what they doQuote from: quadzThis claim has previously been undermined by pointing you to prison statistics, showing data from a nationwide study of the percentage of nonbelievers in prison, compared to the percentage of nonbelievers in the surrounding population. The percentage of nonbelievers in prison was consistently vanishingly small compared to the percentage of nonbelievers in the surrounding population.ONCE AGAIN, please stop talking out your ass. If you are going to keep making the claim above, then please provide evidence to support it.
This claim has previously been undermined by pointing you to prison statistics, showing data from a nationwide study of the percentage of nonbelievers in prison, compared to the percentage of nonbelievers in the surrounding population. The percentage of nonbelievers in prison was consistently vanishingly small compared to the percentage of nonbelievers in the surrounding population.ONCE AGAIN, please stop talking out your ass. If you are going to keep making the claim above, then please provide evidence to support it.
I could care less if there is a god or not.Quote from: quadzYou seem to be implying, if there's no god, you still think it's important for the general population to believe in a lie, for the 'sake of society' ?Please keep in mind you have yet to provide evidence that religious belief is beneficial to society; whereas there is evidence provided above that suggests religiosity may be detrimental to society.Regards,quadz
You seem to be implying, if there's no god, you still think it's important for the general population to believe in a lie, for the 'sake of society' ?Please keep in mind you have yet to provide evidence that religious belief is beneficial to society; whereas there is evidence provided above that suggests religiosity may be detrimental to society.Regards,quadz
I won't go through the trouble to break all the details down, but clearly in everyday life people fear god, they worship god, and they don't know what's going on.
I haven’t really drawn any conclusions, as far as what people should believe if there is no god.
And yes I do think religious belief is beneficial to society, whether you agree or not, I’d think you’d believe that in some form.
At least this is why the aheist agenda isn’t really taken serious. It’s all a one sided story.
this hawkings guy lost a lot of his credibility with me, when he started talking about global warming as if it existed as a fact
this hawkings guy lost a lot of his credibility with me, when he started talking about global warming as if it existed as a factQuote from: dahangQuote of the Day. September 29, 2009.
Quote of the Day. September 29, 2009.
I haven’t really drawn any conclusions, as far as what people should believe if there is no god.Quote from: quadzWell, for starters, do you suppose they could stop killing each other in the name of religion?
Well, for starters, do you suppose they could stop killing each other in the name of religion?
For the sake of argument, suppose for a moment that there really is no god. Or at least, no god that bothers to concern itself with what some tiny specks of protoplasm are doing on a little planet orbiting one of 200000000000 stars in a galaxy which is itself just one of an estimated 100000000000 galaxies in the universe.In this context, please describe to me what you think the "atheist agenda" is. (Because as far as I know, I have just described it in the preceeding paragraph.)Regards,quadz
i like the big bang theory, seems to have some decent evidence.
Let's take a look at the Taliban. They beat woman if they don't follow harsh Islamic law. If they didn't have the Koran you think they'd be A-ok? I'd bet they'd still beat women, still be pissed off at the west, and still be totally insane. In other words, we'd still be different, and there'd still be the jihad. They do what their leader says, Mullah Omar, and he'd still dictate bullshit laws, religion or not.
i don't think people are always trying to fill in the gaps, i think a lot of people have been believing in god a long time