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« Reply #165 on: November 17, 2006, 09:50:59 AM »
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« Reply #166 on: November 17, 2006, 09:56:37 AM »
Frankly, I don't care. If it will get your rocks off to spell it out for me then do so and get it over with. It's your failure at making a statement so vague that leads you to having restate what you really meant. Enlighten me dahang. What was it you were trying to say?  ;D
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« Reply #167 on: November 17, 2006, 10:04:21 AM »
i believe it was a failure on your part to understand simple metaphoric language.

i stated on the topic of homosexuality: "others seem to 'let' it bother them, or even want  it to bother them."

the word 'let' indicates that it should not bother a heterosexual because it, in no literal sense, affects them. this can be due to securities of personality. i was not implying potential securities of sexuality.

the word 'want' could imply a number of things.

1) it is a popular opinion and viewpoint to disciminate gays or view them as a 'lower' human. (what i was suggesting).

if the entire world viewed gays as an equal and claimed they had a right to their own personal sexual pleasures, you would conform to this opinion. i think you simply want to be opposed to it for no real reason, and because it is acceptable at this time in society. i don't believe you're insecure or religious, and it's human to take the stance you have. you think the acts of gay sex are disgusting, so clearly there is something wrong with the character performing it.

2) personal insecurities (not what i was suggesting).
3) religious belief (not what what i was suggesting).
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« Reply #168 on: November 17, 2006, 10:24:28 AM »
I see what you were trying to say now. Thank you.

Good argument, no doubt.

I'm sure the original gay people were discriminated against because it was against religious rules. Then slowly it grew away from religion and now people (like me) feel they need to hate gay people because that's the way it should be.

You're idea of most people accepting gays is a dream. I don't see that ever happening. If it does, then I can bet you at some point in your lifetime, you will be bothered in one way or another by homosexuality.

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« Reply #169 on: November 17, 2006, 10:33:38 AM »
Sorry to interupt you guys, but why aren't the gays around here defending themselves?
NI-UX, where are you!!!?
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« Reply #170 on: November 17, 2006, 10:35:37 AM »
couldn't he just think buttsecks between men is gross, and leave it at that?


I personally have nothing against gay people, and I actually enjoy the company of lesbians quite a bit.
They are just like heterosexual women, except they don't act all weird around guys and as far as I've seen they are more sure of their ability to do things themself, than the "normal" bitches who'd gladly have men waiting on them, hand and foot...

I'm not exactly comfortable with gay men, but that's because I'm irresistably gorgeous to anyone who is attracted to men.
 :evilgrin:

It's not like I hate them, and I dont want them all to dissapear or become hetero... they can do what they want with each other's butts. My posts yesterday were mostly hypothetical situations that we picked apart for the sake of discussion. It's not my place to tell anyone what to do with their life.

I just want people to realize that gays are, on some level, conciously choosing to be sexually active with each other, no matter how much a number of them try and put it all off on "attraction" and try to prove that there are real genetic differences that force them to be actively gay and pursue gay lifestyles. (...I like the way tons of chicks look, but it doesn't force me to do them...)

I only want this, because it seems to me that in recent years people have been finding more and more ways to blame things on everything but their own choices. I'm tired of people not taking responsibility for their own actions.

Any gay person who can look you in the face and tell you that they are actively gay because they choose to be, is worthy of at least a modicum of respect. (more worthy, in fact, than many straight people)
Homosexuals who blame their actively gay lifestyle on everyone and everything but their own choices are just making gays look bad and weak.






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« Reply #171 on: November 17, 2006, 11:05:10 AM »
I just want people to realize that gays are, on some level, conciously choosing to be sexually active with each other, no matter how much a number of them try and put it all off on "attraction" and try to prove that there are real genetic differences that force them to be actively gay and pursue gay lifestyles. (...I like the way tons of chicks look, but it doesn't force me to do them...)

I only want this, because it seems to me that in recent years people have been finding more and more ways to blame things on everything but their own choices. I'm tired of people not taking responsibility for their own actions.

It's as though you're not delineating between innate orientation, and a conscious decision to engage in the mattress mambo.  (Which, I believe, is the technical term.)

Are you saying,

     a) gays can choose their feelings of sexual orientation
or, b) gays can choose who they go to bed with

?



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« Reply #172 on: November 17, 2006, 11:15:00 AM »
I'm saying everyone, including gays, has the choice to engage in sex, or not to.

except for dudes without a dingus. (which must really suck.)


feelings of sexual orientation do not force anyone to have sex with each other.
they just make it more likely that we will choose to.
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« Reply #173 on: November 17, 2006, 11:30:17 AM »
 :smiley_abnk:

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« Reply #174 on: November 17, 2006, 11:47:56 AM »
I just want people to realize that gays are, on some level, conciously choosing to be sexually active with each other, no matter how much a number of them try and put it all off on "attraction" and try to prove that there are real genetic differences that force them to be actively gay and pursue gay lifestyles. (...I like the way tons of chicks look, but it doesn't force me to do them...)

who hasn't realized gays aren't consciously aware they are having sex with their own sex?
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« Reply #175 on: November 17, 2006, 11:51:03 AM »
I just want people to realize that gays are, on some level, conciously choosing to be sexually active with each other, no matter how much a number of them try and put it all off on "attraction" and try to prove that there are real genetic differences that force them to be actively gay and pursue gay lifestyles. (...I like the way tons of chicks look, but it doesn't force me to do them...)

who is hasn't realized gays aren't consciously aware they are having sex with their own sex?

uh what?

I just said that they "are choosing to have sex", not that they do or don't know who they are doing..
that would be ludicrous, unless all gay people had bags over their heads and no hands to feel their partner with.
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« Reply #176 on: November 17, 2006, 11:51:53 AM »
I'm saying everyone, including gays, has the choice to engage in sex, or not to.
[...]
feelings of sexual orientation do not force anyone to have sex with each other.
they just make it more likely that we will choose to.

I would have thought that would be axiomatic.

That makes them the same as us, not different from us.

Since you've chosen to have sex with women, and they've chosen to have sex with their own gender, I guess I don't understand what you're driving at?
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« Reply #177 on: November 17, 2006, 11:55:56 AM »
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« Reply #178 on: November 17, 2006, 11:58:26 AM »
I just want people to realize that gays are, on some level, conciously choosing to be sexually active with each other, no matter how much a number of them try and put it all off on "attraction" and try to prove that there are real genetic differences that force them to be actively gay and pursue gay lifestyles. (...I like the way tons of chicks look, but it doesn't force me to do them...)

who hasn't realized gays aren't consciously aware they are having sex with their own sex?

uh what?

I just said that they "are choosing to have sex", not that they do or don't know who they are doing..
that would be ludicrous, unless all gay people had bags over their heads and no hands to feel their partner with.


right, and i am asking: who hasn't realized they are choosing to have sex?
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« Reply #179 on: November 17, 2006, 11:59:52 AM »
Sorry to interupt you guys, but why aren't the gays around here defending themselves?
NI-UX, where are you!!!?
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