Avatar 2 sneak peak by David

[Arm0r]

So you're trying to say he was hacking in those youtube videos as well?  Because if not, all this "what if" bullshit is retarded.  He beat the top competition for him, AS IT STANDS.  Is anyone better than him?  Possibly, but AS OF NOW, through tourney, he has proven he is the CURRENT best.     

I asked if you were saying he was cheating on youtube.  If not, you were clearly saying it would be a different story on lan.  Saying that would mean "what if" which is what I said is retarded to do in this case due to it being solved by way of tourney which I'm sure you would agree is valid results for any player, especially when it's the fucking EDL which currently hosts the best players in the world.  Better?

 

[adz1La]

You just don't get it....

[Arm0r]

Well I'd love some insight.  Please help me out. 

[fdrjk]

A nickel for anybody who can point out anything about David's recordings that are illegitimate.

[Muerte]

A nickel for anybody who can point out anything about David's recordings that are illegitimate.

Where is proof David playing on camera.

If u check q2scene long enough in past u will find players from poland banned from leagues because nick exchange
Only 'proof' is: 'someone' played with David IP from David place

so who was it
[ ] David
[ ] hasiu (living 2 streets from David place)
[ ] Flavis (3rd known guy from Radomsko http://q2scene.net/ds/index.php?op=users&id=4210)


Its ok near we 'understand': David let u win once (if u not fallow near demo thread ) now ur his greatest fan.
Don't worry, if David lose his 200e it doesn't mean u will lose your 10e too

[fdrjk]

I don't get your post. Are you saying someone else was in David's videos or...?

[Muerte]

I advised muerte to keep his racial slur down, he wouldn't have come here with all this if David was Serbian

1. wtf ur talking about. Back in days i had fun with fair share of girls from Poland on Adriatic see. They was all white as im Never heard of Poland race (as i know Poland and Serbia share same ancestors Old Sloven tribe=

2. I didn't 'come' here. Im here on tastyspleen forum 'officially' 6 years and few years more 'silently' (simply: tastyspleen have more guys who knows about hardware,software, quake2 then q2scene so i was 'silent' because i didn't 'feel need' anything to add)

3. if David was/is Serbian: ur so funny: read my comments when was Duggah caught wallhacking.
FYI Duggah is Serbian living in Slovenia

[Whirlingdervish]

Feel free to believe whatever you want fatass.
I have personally watched you play without anticheat on multiple occasions, although I don't track your bullshit alias of the day that you hide behind while you play ffa poorly, so I don't really know or care if you started using it recently.

If you can't glean the reason from my very specific statement that over the shoulder cams taken when you're suspected of cheating and LIVE WITNESSES are not the same thing, I'm not going to bother repeating myself.

You just keep winning at arguing with shit that people haven't actually said, and leave the conversation to people with some reading comprehension abilities.

[Muerte]

What's so different about David having a camera over his shoulder and doing it live?

live u could see his face and witch finger he showing q2 community on end of that video

david: lol, "thanks [...] see ya" is not want i'm reading from your middle finger at the end of the recordings

David 'finger' last season

Arguing over the past only causes problems.  That's what people did in the dark ages and it always ended with really bad results

You should go in politics: all convicted or accused would vote for you: erase past that is best way

[fdrjk]

Feel free to believe whatever you want fatass.
I have personally watched you play without anticheat on multiple occasions, although I don't track your bullshit alias of the day that you hide behind while you play ffa poorly, so I don't really know or care if you started using it recently.

If you can't glean the reason from my very specific statement that over the shoulder cams taken when you're suspected of cheating and LIVE WITNESSES are not the same thing, I'm not going to bother repeating myself.

You just keep winning at arguing with shit that people haven't actually said, and leave the conversation to people with some reading comprehension abilities.

The only issue for playing live would be the pressure of playing in front of such a large audience (which requires a little more skill to keep your cool than inside your own home), or playing with stock Q2. Other than that, I can't see how it's any different. There is no cheating going on with the recordings, and if there was, then someone would have said something by now.

If you're also trying to imply that he somehow opened up all his demos, faked all of his movements perfectly, and them changed his clock at the beginning of his first video to the time the match started, that's also literally impossible. David's recordings were made public 93 minutes after the game was finished, and since they played 6 maps, that adds up to a total of 90 minutes. If you add the breaks they took in between matches, it would be impossible for him to fake those recordings in any way.

As for previously cheating, I'm not denying if he did or did not cheat before. Cheating doesn't make you better, so I don't see how he needed to cheat to get better. He's played and practiced a lot, and if he can beat purri in the grand final, then I don't see how he would have ANY problem beating previous opponents he was suspected to be cheating against. (wst, IsBjorn, etc.)

[Whirlingdervish]

armor: you didn't bother to respond to the part of that post that shoves your shit in and shows that you can't read worth a darn. no surprise there.

fader: "arguing" with stuff nobody said. I said they are not the same thing. That's it. I didn't imply anything else.
I was pretty fucking specific twice now. Learn to fucking read.

Armor's statement was effectively that "david did good with people watching him play live" and then he supported this idiocy with links to over the shoulder cam videos posted after the fact by the guy in question, after trying to shit talk adren who said that vids and live play aren't the same thing.

LIVE PLAY = REALTIME WITH LIVE PEOPLE WATCHING.

Simple enough for you? I fear for the future of mankind because of the chance that people like you will breed successfully.

[fdrjk]

The only issue for playing live would be the pressure of playing in front of such a large audience (which requires a little more skill to keep your cool than inside your own home)

 

[VaeVictis]

ya know... i just have to point it out... you could actually just have something like a dual monitor set up, and have one spectating with a wallhack off camera lol or mabye the spectating one is the one you want to record and the legit one has a really low fov aimbot, would probably take practice to play with both screens in view, but mouse movements and everything would pretty much sync up

the only way to prove your legitimacy really is to do it at a lan with a regulation computer like they do at qcon every year lol

[Muerte]

Myabe someone can ask david what file type his cam corder records in and what format he condensed it to

If help your case MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download)
txt export of video i got from Welkin (when i was 'trustworthy adviser' )

General
Complete name                            : T:\cheaters\david-vs-isbjorn.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 326 MiB
Duration                                 : 1h 0mn
Overall bit rate                         : 760 Kbps
Writing application                      : CanonMVI06
Writing library                          : VirtualDub build 32842/release

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                           : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP                    : 2
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                              : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                                 : DIVX
Codec ID/Info                            : Project Mayo
Codec ID/Hint                            : DivX 4
Duration                                 : 1h 0mn
Bit rate                                 : 666 Kbps
Width                                    : 320 pixels
Height                                   : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 15.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.578
Stream size                              : 286 MiB (88%)
Writing library                          : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Sign                    : Unsigned
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 59mn 59s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 88.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 11.024 KHz
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Stream size                              : 37.8 MiB (12%)
Interleave, duration                     : 67 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration             : 500 ms

Didn't analyzed the video and do not intend. Simply videos not cover suspicious demos and don't give answer why is David name/IP on AC server violation list
   

[Muerte]

.Avi format are the largest type for videos. So assuming his cam corder records in .avi a 15 minute recording would be anything from 900mb to 2GB depending. So it would take anywhere between 10-15 minutes for a single 1GB file to transer from a cam corder to your PC. Then to condense a 1GB file with lets say handbrake, it would take between 20-40 minutes. handbrake converts a video file to a .mp4 format which is a very good file type to condense it to for example a 1GB file would condense into say maybe 1 or 2 MB. The problem is, if david converted it to say any other file type apart from a .avi file, when admin recieved the file they would have had to of converted it back to an avi file to be able to edit it in vdub. So for a single 15 minute file you are looking at about 40 minutes to an hour of mucking with it on its own. So the 90 minute upload after the game does not make sense to me especially when he has 9 videos in total each about 12 minutes long. unless as i said, he has a super fast pc or his cam corder records in mp4 format, which i doubt it would, but you never know

Dunno who was 'video operator' for Welkin cuting and uploading videos on youtube, but i think David uploaded raw video (not compressed with VirtualDub in xvid like david_vs_isbjorn ) and with 1mbit upload 90 min is ok time for uncompressed video
Maybe is original link still available on net...

If David recorder have mp4 format why would he convert Dav_vs_ISB in xvid ?

As i know Welkin have crap pc for q2 (dunno what he have for his music maybe MAC-beast )