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[|iR|Focalor]

Gay thread. Euthanize this fucker. Shuffle Shove it off this mortal coil.

[yahoo]

Based from the arguments and demos posted here, it had been established with strong factual basis that:

1.David cheated. -He uses telephaty thats why he can see thru walls and predict movements.
2.The NWO is not the same as the EDL
3.Golgo is a fag

End of Story.

[Muerte]

a few points to consider(so people aren't so divided on this issue):

- most of the david v. purri GF matches looked like practice/friendly matches, as I've already pointed out... it was far from the pinnacle of duel competition in q2
- "nerves" is not an explanation for the aforementioned lack of competitive mindset I described in the purri v. david GF... the style clash of an out of practice purri v. how david plays provides a better explanation for this.
- nerves are only so much of an excuse anyway. Spawn probability would provide a better excuse than nerves when we're not seeing a truly serious/in-practiced highest level duel.
- A dual monitor setup is possible.
- David cheating in the past is possible, and even questionable considering suspicions both in-game and on the AC hall of shame.
- Taking a stance either way with the information present, is stupid. Notice how I haven't taken a stance.
- Following these handy dandy bullets will help you avoid having your post deleted.

You missed just one thing: As i tested and you confirmed playing with WH was possible in last EDL and still is (as i know)
Meanwhile i tested all servers in Europe used in EDL games
Only one was "bulletproof" but not even on it i wasn't "recorded" in AC Hall of Shame

PS  I guess your next funnick is Switzerland

[yahoo]

By the way, since were talking bout a competition (EDL championship) what is the prize for the winner?

[Muerte]

By the way, since were talking bout a competition (EDL championship) what is the prize for the winner?

EDL #10 Prizes:

Div 1:
#1 90 € + 133,7 € from teioch independently!*
#2 70 €
#3 50 €
#4 25 €

Div 2:
#1 50 €
#2 35 €
#3 20 €

Div 3:
#1 30 €
#2 15 €
#3 10 €

Div 4:
#1 10 €

[Zeppelin]

By the way, since were talking bout a competition (EDL championship) what is the prize for the winner?

EDL #10 Prizes:

Div 1:
#1 90 € + 133,7 € from teioch independently!*

I like the 133,7€! 

[haunted]

Hello? Is anyone home in any of your noggins? I am seriously asking this here... because yahoo, the post you said is exactly what I told all of you NOT to do. Does this look like a troll golgo thread? Does this look like the typical thread for you to crack jokes in? No... it's not. So stop making jokes about the only people you look good in comparison next to, because without golgo/ruiner/etc. for you to shit on, you contribute absolutely nothing to this community. You are just comedic relief... and although this may be UNBELIEVABLE to realize, but this thread is not a place for you or anyone else to crack jokes on like it's the general smack talk section. There are many other threads for you to do this in. . .

I mean do you guys even fucking read my posts? I am avoiding raining on your parades for YOUR sake. 90%+ of you are fucking clueless in this discussion, whether you think or realize it or not, your posts and points of view show it.  So allow me to be blunt here... all of you shut the fuck up unless you are posting something relevant, Including people who are suggesting to end this thread/kill it, I don't need your input.. I don't need anyone's help in regulating this thread AT ALL.

So I'll repeat, one more time, before I individually start telling people why they are fucking retarded: take notice of what you are posting on this thread, and what position you are to have an opinion on it.(example: just because you have more to contribute than golgo, doesn't mean you should post it or that you are right...it means that what you have to say looks good in comparison to what golgo says. Are you really pleased with this?)

[yahoo]

awwwwww..
why so serious   

[fdrjk]

This thread sure got cleaned. I feel like it's going to get a lot cleaner from this point. 

[|iR|Focalor]

I mean do you guys even fucking read my posts? I am avoiding raining on your parades for YOUR sake. 90%+ of you are fucking clueless in this discussion, whether you think or realize it or not, your posts and points of view show it.  So allow me to be blunt here... all of you shut the fuck up unless you are posting something relevant, Including people who are suggesting to end this thread/kill it, I don't need your input.. I don't need anyone's help in regulating this thread AT ALL.

Since you're gonna include me as one of the 90% who are fucking clueless:

What more fucking input is needed? The whole point of this thread was to discuss how David was allegedly cheating during a EURO tourney. No one on this board has anything to do with deciding what happens in a Euro tourney as an admin. The admins OF said Euro tourney have already been supplied with the evidence they need proclaim a legitimate winner. The tourney is OVER, DONE, FINISHED. No changing it now. But people are still gonna haggle and debate over it? Especially when nothing said here will make any difference at all? If it makes any difference in any way, please inform me how that is. You wanna talk about how the stupid comments make the Americans look foolish... I'd say making any more comments at all does the same thing. It's like a bunch of women getting together to bitch about their ex-husbands. They aren't married to them anymore, they have nothing to do with them anymore, but that isn't gonna stop them from gossiping and whining about them like a bunch of clucking little bitter hens. This shits gone on for 20 pages and a few weeks AFTER the tourney was over. Time to get the fuck over it and move on.

[Arm0r]

I agree.  I got the point this thread wouldn't yield any real results a little bit ago so I just stopped responding.   That, and having my opinion called stupid with no supporting evidence was all the eye rolling I needed for one thread.    If I was wrong, I would of been open for a discussion as to why.  I just don't take shit like "you just wouldn't understand" as a viable answer to anything.   If that is a jab made at my level of play then I doubt anyone that frequents this forum is "qualified" to give their opinion on grand final play.

Oh well.  I'm gonna go play some Q2.

[haunted]

Do you want to be one of the 10% or something foc? I didn't specify you to that group, but I still don't need your input on how I regulate this thread.... that is correct. And you don't know much about this league, nor the differences in cheat protection from usa v. europe, why would you even care to take a passionate stance with this? Same with you arm0r...

like I said, i've been biting my tongue with pretty much everyone's misinformation in this thread.

oh, and when the input is ALL bad/misinformed, yes, there is obviously room for more. not like it could get any worse.

[Arm0r]

I still don't understand where the conflict comes in.   There is no toss up or discussion needed on weather or not he cheated this EDL, the recordings (which you suggested and dervish thinks are useless btw) were pretty legit to me, I have no opinion on if he did cheat in the past because I don't know if he did or not.   I do know this EDL he had to be legit, his recordings which for some reason "aren't worth a shit" proved it to me, what more on that front even needs to be discussed?

Some words from purri:

Some of you need to chill down a bit and just enjoy and realise that we still have a somewhat active community that can bring these kind of feelings and games still today...

David has beaten everyone this season and that also includes me 2x times. This means very simple, that he won the EDL title 2012 and for sure is the champion this season.

I must say that I'm very happy with some of my own games in this final and in particular my ztn2 and even rdm5. Not only since I won those maps, but I really felt that I played well so my form was for sure not crap as some of you might think. But I was also very unhappy that I could not perform on koldduel1 for instance.

There is no secret that perhaps I don't play much the last years, but that does not change the fact that David has improved and is currently better than everyone else who participated in this league.

It's not David's (or anyone else's) fault that me or anyone else from the 'old school' players don't practise enough or any other excuse for that matter. This is just poor mentality from you who think otherwise. We have tournaments so we can define a winner and this is how we all like to compete in Quake and other sports as well.

This is normal in all games, sports and competitions in both lower and higher level. New players will eventually become champions and it's time we realise we have one instead of flaming his performance. I know it's easier to flame than to praise, but please try to realise that we are not that many of us left and all the negative atmosphere and arguing with each other is not helping to motivate players to continue after the summer break.

I'm of course unhappy that I did not win, as I always try to win when the countdown has started! But I do smile when I think that someone that barely was born when this game was released is now the champion

http://q2scene.net/edl/index.php?op=descr&id=70024
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If I'm going to take words from anyone on the match, I'll take his thanks.

[fdrjk]

Actually, EDL isn't over yet. There's still the div 2 final with slippi and NumaveZi.

[haunted]

If I'm going to take words from anyone on the match, I'll take his thanks.

What does purri's post have anything to do with what I said, or you being misinformed?

...it doesn't have to do with either.

Thinking you just made headway in the discussion when you are obviously misinformed has been a constant with your posts on this thread. Obviously you're content with this, and are equally as incapable of following the standard I set for this thread as anyone else.

So allow me to suggest that you take some advice from purri's in the post you just linked:

"I know it's easier to flame than to praise, but please try to realise that we are not that many of us left and all the negative atmosphere and arguing with each other is not helping to motivate players to continue after the summer break."

Have you done ANYTHING on this site other than flame? You're biggest accomplishment is 'at least "you know your place" '... yet it's only when some stupid forum shit talking hierarchy is concerned.

So allow me to return your thanks and remind you that no one will ever be taking your word, ever, in regard to this matter.