Author Topic: Q2E Warz  (Read 26520 times)

leileilol

  • Guest
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2008, 09:19:19 PM »
Once upon a time in 2006 there was a 'coder' named shadowalker
he ran a closed source engine called Hyperdrive
he accused Darkplaces (another Quake engine) of stealing his ideas, and implementations
The quake engine source is released under the GPL
Darkplaces' source was available
Hyperdrive was not
John Carmack was notified of both issues - the closed sourceness and the accusations.

Can you guess what happened next?
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline quadz

  • Phenomenally Prodigious Member
  • **
  • Posts: 3767
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2008, 09:29:11 PM »
The quake engine source is released under the GPL
Darkplaces' source was available
Hyperdrive was not

That reminds me.  During this discussion I have been assuming both Q2E and Berserker@Q2 are covered by the GPL, and thus source code for both projects is freely available.

Is this correct?

I looked on http://berserker.quakegate.net/ but didn't see an obvious link to download source.


Regards,

:???:
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
"He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."

Offline berserker

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 27
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2008, 10:30:08 PM »
Yes, Berserker@Q2 sources under GPL
Source code was included into Setup.exe
http://berserker.quakegate.net/counter.php?file=1
« Last Edit: August 21, 2008, 10:31:49 PM by berserker »
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline quadz

  • Phenomenally Prodigious Member
  • **
  • Posts: 3767
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2008, 10:40:04 PM »
Yes, Berserker@Q2 sources under GPL
Source code was included into Setup.exe

Awesome!!  Very glad to hear that!  :beer:


:rockon:

  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
"He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."

Offline berserker

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 27
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2008, 11:40:10 PM »
quadz
 ;)
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline KRIGSSVIN

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 12
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #65 on: August 25, 2008, 10:32:42 PM »
 :humm: Is this closed?
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline @tex

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2008, 01:58:45 AM »
KRIGSSVIN
yeah.
i hope its clear, have no proving - have no to discuss.case is closed.
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline jal_

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #67 on: September 02, 2008, 08:41:16 AM »
I see comments here saying they believe odium cause he didn't go down to childish levels, well, I disagree. The bottom line is that odium started accusations of something that in any case a GPL project can NEVER be acused. First, because, even if bersekerQ2 used Q2E code, they are on it's right to do it, and they have no obligation of giving credits to anyone. Code can NEVER BE STOLED from a GPL source. Second, because he makes up these acusations from nowhere. I don't know (nor care) if bersekerQ2 uses Q2E code or not, but odium doesn't seem to know it either. He just makes up guesses from screenshots.
So yeah, the Russian crew is exagerated on their use of emoticons, but they have all the right to feel pissed off.

And I cheer up Berserk (the argentinian one) who does all the coding and never gets involved in these stupid wars.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2008, 08:45:10 AM by jal_ »
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline KRIGSSVIN

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 12
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Q2E Warz
« Reply #68 on: September 02, 2008, 11:08:23 AM »
I see comments here saying they believe odium cause he didn't go down to childish levels, well, I disagree. The bottom line is that odium started accusations of something that in any case a GPL project can NEVER be acused. First, because, even if bersekerQ2 used Q2E code, they are on it's right to do it, and they have no obligation of giving credits to anyone. Code can NEVER BE STOLED from a GPL source. Second, because he makes up these acusations from nowhere. I don't know (nor care) if bersekerQ2 uses Q2E code or not, but odium doesn't seem to know it either. He just makes up guesses from screenshots.
So yeah, the Russian crew is exagerated on their use of emoticons, but they have all the right to feel pissed off.

And I cheer up Berserk (the argentinian one) who does all the coding and never gets involved in these stupid wars.
+1  :purpleshock:
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

 

El Box de Shoutamente

Last 10 Shouts:

 

-=[AZ]=-

January 20, 2019, 05:56:31 PM
I'm having trouble signing in. It says session expired or something along those  lines and it doesn't let me sign in......
 

ImperiusDamian

January 20, 2019, 02:33:48 PM
I am such a n00b. I had no idea the server IPs had changed. Shows how long it's been since I played Q2!
 

Admin

January 18, 2019, 06:01:51 PM
Not seeing any apparent bans. What happens (exactly) when you try to connect? Can you connect to any of our other Q2 ports?

setsujo

January 18, 2019, 05:45:09 PM
I am having trouble joining 23.227.170.222:27916
Is it possible I was banned... and if so why? I do run Yamagi Quake 2. Could that be the reason if I was banned?
 

Admin

January 01, 2019, 04:54:12 PM
NOTE: A media-embedding forum mod is now installed. Should be able to just paste ordinary links (youtube, twitter, instagram, liveleak, etc.) and have the media show up.
 

Er!c@

December 26, 2018, 05:09:22 PM
Merry Late xmas nerds :)
 

yahoo

December 16, 2018, 01:10:02 AM
err imean sata or chipset driver
 

yahoo

December 15, 2018, 10:48:16 PM
try installing the ide controller driver
 

R. Hayabusa

December 15, 2018, 10:18:57 PM
anyone know how to stop the hard drive from using 100% rsources. it's not a virus and i looked at toms hardware. i think it need to update my pentium firmware. im not sure how.
 

|iR|Focalor

December 06, 2018, 01:16:59 PM

Show 50 latest
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
January 21, 2019, 03:39:48 AM

Login with username, password and session length