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[The Happy Friar]

Not sure what nuke's you guys are using but mine doesn't do 100 seconds, it does 1:00. 

[|iR|Focalor]

If they did it the other way, people would complain that it's too hard to figure out the math. They make it easy, and someone still has the balls to bitch about it. Life isn't hard, it's just a handful of people who feel the need to make it difficult on the rest of us.

[[BTF] Reflex]

Not sure what nuke's you guys are using but mine doesn't do 100 seconds, it does 1:00. 

The point is that they do 1:00 for 100, but 90 seconds still comes out as 90 seconds not 1:30.

[The Happy Friar]

The point is that they do 1:00 for 100, but 90 seconds still comes out as 90 seconds not 1:30.

Because 90 seconds is 1:20, not 1:30.  Simple math people!    Companies should go back to the turn dial knobs, you just winged the thing all the way around & stopped it when you were happy with the explosion level inside.    

[The Happy Friar]

Ends up my two year old is allergeric to bug bites.  His face is swelling to the point his eyes are almost shut.  Dr says he'll be fine so it's HILARIOUS!     (that's not a face he's making, it swelling!)

[QwazyWabbit]

Not sure what nuke's you guys are using but mine doesn't do 100 seconds, it does 1:00. 

The point is that they do 1:00 for 100, but 90 seconds still comes out as 90 seconds not 1:30.

The question is a trick. 90 seconds is one minute and 30 seconds but the seconds portion of the display is 00 to 99 seconds. The elapsed time will be the time in seconds. It's perfectly reasonable for the microwave to expect you to enter the time in seconds for numbers less than three digits.

Once you start entering numbers like 100, 120 it computes it modulo minutes:seconds and 100 becomes 1:00, 120 becomes 1:20, etc. The real brain fart happens when you enter numbers like 199 and get 1:99 for elapsed time of 2 minutes, 39 seconds. This is because the microwave isn't computing the seconds place modulo 60.

It's impossible to put 60 + 60 into a microwave and get 1:20, AFAICT. You can enter 0:60 and get one minute and repeat it for another 0:60 or a total of 2:00.

[Sgt. Dick]

If they made the readout only use seconds, some people would not know how to comprehend anything over 60 

[[BTF] Reflex]

Bravo qwazy,  the real brainfart.   I knew there was something in the equation that was being left out and that was it.

 

[peewee_RotA]

Not sure what nuke's you guys are using but mine doesn't do 100 seconds, it does 1:00. 

The point is that they do 1:00 for 100, but 90 seconds still comes out as 90 seconds not 1:30.

The question is a trick. 90 seconds is one minute and 30 seconds but the seconds portion of the display is 00 to 99 seconds. The elapsed time will be the time in seconds. It's perfectly reasonable for the microwave to expect you to enter the time in seconds for numbers less than three digits.

Once you start entering numbers like 100, 120 it computes it modulo minutes:seconds and 100 becomes 1:00, 120 becomes 1:20, etc. The real brain fart happens when you enter numbers like 199 and get 1:99 for elapsed time of 2 minutes, 39 seconds. This is because the microwave isn't computing the seconds place modulo 60.

It's impossible to put 60 + 60 into a microwave and get 1:20, AFAICT. You can enter 0:60 and get one minute and repeat it for another 0:60 or a total of 2:00.

I actually posted something similar only to have a glitch on my browser lose it before it finished being sent to the server. Thanks for pulling out the concept of modulo. I completely forgot the term for it in my non-existent first post.

The problem is that the time on the microwave is 2 digits of base60 being represented in decimal numbers. The problems pointed out are manufacturers solutions to the original problems that are pretty inconsistent between brands of microwave.

There actually is a system that represents the Base60 of time very well using unique symbols. It's called an analog clock. (sorry for that condescending part LOL  ) In fact I once saw a really old microwave that used dials to represent the analog clock.

Also, just to point out that some microwaves only allow the first digit of base60 to be 0-9 so even that is a problem. Although cooking food in the microwave rarely goes above 9 minutes anyway. (many defrosting settings that do go well above 9 minutes are handled by entering weight in decimal, not time)

There are microwaves that add time. My workplace has quite a few heavy duty microwaves that do not contain a keypad and they work by incrementing time using programmable buttons before pressing start. This is probably because the keypad wears out on microwaves pretty often due to cheap parts. Also, little known fact, the warranties on microwaves usually exclude the keypad due to some unconscionably non-inclusive warranty that tends to also exclude the magnetron.


P.S. I haven't used the word exclude enough... EXCLUDE!

[fdrjk]

[[BTF] Reflex]

For all the soccer moms...

[QwazyWabbit]

Not sure what nuke's you guys are using but mine doesn't do 100 seconds, it does 1:00. 

The point is that they do 1:00 for 100, but 90 seconds still comes out as 90 seconds not 1:30.

The question is a trick. 90 seconds is one minute and 30 seconds but the seconds portion of the display is 00 to 99 seconds. The elapsed time will be the time in seconds. It's perfectly reasonable for the microwave to expect you to enter the time in seconds for numbers less than three digits.

Once you start entering numbers like 100, 120 it computes it modulo minutes:seconds and 100 becomes 1:00, 120 becomes 1:20, etc. The real brain fart happens when you enter numbers like 199 and get 1:99 for elapsed time of 2 minutes, 39 seconds. This is because the microwave isn't computing the seconds place modulo 60.

It's impossible to put 60 + 60 into a microwave and get 1:20, AFAICT. You can enter 0:60 and get one minute and repeat it for another 0:60 or a total of 2:00.

I actually posted something similar only to have a glitch on my browser lose it before it finished being sent to the server. Thanks for pulling out the concept of modulo. I completely forgot the term for it in my non-existent first post.

The problem is that the time on the microwave is 2 digits of base60 being represented in decimal numbers. The problems pointed out are manufacturers solutions to the original problems that are pretty inconsistent between brands of microwave.

There actually is a system that represents the Base60 of time very well using unique symbols. It's called an analog clock. (sorry for that condescending part LOL  ) In fact I once saw a really old microwave that used dials to represent the analog clock.

Also, just to point out that some microwaves only allow the first digit of base60 to be 0-9 so even that is a problem. Although cooking food in the microwave rarely goes above 9 minutes anyway. (many defrosting settings that do go well above 9 minutes are handled by entering weight in decimal, not time)

There are microwaves that add time. My workplace has quite a few heavy duty microwaves that do not contain a keypad and they work by incrementing time using programmable buttons before pressing start. This is probably because the keypad wears out on microwaves pretty often due to cheap parts. Also, little known fact, the warranties on microwaves usually exclude the keypad due to some unconscionably non-inclusive warranty that tends to also exclude the magnetron.


P.S. I haven't used the word exclude enough... EXCLUDE!

I just tried it in the cheap hotel microwave in my room here. Key in 60 seconds and it runs for 60 seconds. It allows up to 99 seconds. Key in 199 and it displays 1:99 and counts it down from there as I described above. Some microwaves might only allow 00 to 59 in the seconds field but that would be due to some engineer doing some real thinking when he wrote the firmware for the oven and having enough room in the PROM to put it in. I don't know why they wouldn't put it in today since most ovens have a clock display that MUST display times as modulo 12:60 time. All I know is this cheap oven allows 99:99 cook times. I wonder if that's enough to vaporize molten motel popcorn on high power.

I will have to check our 27 year old Amana Radar Range when I get home. I can't remember if it rolled over at 59 seconds on data entry or not. When I want 1 minute coffee I always put in 111 and get 1:11 on it since it's easier to do that than to peck around the keyboard to enter 100.

[[BTF]Sigma]

[|iR|Focalor]

When I see you people way too interested in this whole microwave thing than you probably should be, I understand why people think we evolved from monkeys. I get this mental picture of you all kneeling in a circle around a microwave, violently punching buttons, grunting and screaming, occasionally slapping the top of it, then finally collectively throwing it against the wall the break it open and see what's inside.

It's just a microwave. You've been using one for several decades successfully. Why wonder about how it works at THIS point?

[[BTF]Sigma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze3hthGRbRo