Popular Spectator Myths

[The Happy Friar]

In league matches though, I see nothing wrong with one or both teams requesting it be closed to the public. It's their game, so whatever.

I'd like to say if it's THEIR SERVER, whatever.  People pay $$ to run servers.  Players shouldn't be dictating how they should be run.  They can always run their own.

I see this a lot in ET:QW ranked servers though: people who paid for ranked servers kicking players because they're to good, or they want a clanmate to join instead, banning use of certain weapons/vehicles, etc.  Real wankers imho.  It's a ranked server, all rules should be equal.  If you want a server that you 100% control then don't get public ranked.  Get non-ranked.

[[BTF]Jehar]

I totally agree, but I do make a distinction between sanctioned league games and non-sanctioned casual or otherwise semi-casual games. In the league games, we often have to remove people anyway for repeatedly joining the clan teams or somesuch. But yeah, unless it's that situation, no player has any more right to the server than anyone else.

[reaper]

it's the most fun to watch the tournaments.  just disable mm1 for specs somehow. 

[FYATroll]

I think alot of players are either Shy or feel Intimidated when people watch them during a match that actually counts....ESPECIALLY if they feel there's a good chance of a loss.

In my opinion ALL matches should be mandated open for viewing by spectators...there's no real reason for not doing so. Unless you fall into either the "shy" or "intimidated" category.

Quake 2 can be just as much of a spectator sport as it is for actually playing. There's not a person here on the forums or that plays ANY kind of fps game that doesn't like to sit back and watch a good match from time to time. And I personally know of several people who actually enjoy Watching far more than playing. Mandating that all matches be open for spectating, in my opinion, will also maintain and/or generate a higher level of interest in the events that occur which is good for all of us.

Thanks Quadz for debunking those 'old players tales'......

WOOF!

Well said all the way around...the first paragraph hits the nail on the head....players get nervous..thats pretty much it

[HabibGoatAss]

the "female model is faster" myth

FOOL!  I can guarantee you that the male model is much much much faster, like minutes vs halves of hours . . .

Hahha - I would like to see some way to assure that Howard Cosell be the ony spectator to connect with chat permissions -

"YES INDEED LARRY, AFICAN QUAKE MODELS SEEM TO BE ABLE TO JUMP HIGHER THAN THEIR CAUCASIAN COUNTERPARTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN ROCKET JUMPING  . . ."  (poor anachronistic Howard barely understood why he lost his job . . .)

Maybe we need to have various connection types - Spectator, Announcer, Kibbitzer, Popcorn Sales Guy, Guy With The Programs & Tee-Shirts, Obnoxious Drunk Dude Rooting For The Other Team . . .



Later-

Habib

[{TNP}Dukie]

Are dreamsicles still two for one if I don't shoot the cashier?

[peewee_RotA]

Maybe we need to have various connection types - Spectator, Announcer, Kibbitzer, Popcorn Sales Guy, Guy With The Programs & Tee-Shirts, Obnoxious Drunk Dude Rooting For The Other Team . . .

...Kabob vendor

[[BTF] Reflex]

Can one spectator get a working railgun?

[krez]

anytime the nail server was full of specs, it would crash immediately after the game ended.

[R1CH]

That's because OSP is buggy, has nothing to do with spectators - the same amount of players would cause the same issue.

[krez]

i dont know, when there was 7-8 people on the server we never seemed to have that issue.  but when there was 16, crash every time

[X'tyfe]

yes alot of this stuff is bullshit
but let them have their big heads, its all they got

[WiFi_Man]

Alright, this is a really silly idea, but I was just thinking...  What if you could have a "delayed spectator feed" or something?  Have some sort of relay that connects as a spectator (or possibly through a special server backdoor), and that the other spectators can connect to.  They'd be able to float around or chasecam as usual, but: 1. would be unable to bother the actual players with chat or [dis]connect messages, and 2. would be significantly less helpful as a cheating mechanism.

Of course, this would just be a pain in the ass for ad-hoc matches, so (in my opinion) it should be reserved for leagues and whatnot.

[console]

Alright, this is a really silly idea, but I was just thinking...  What if you could have a "delayed spectator feed" or something?  Have some sort of relay that connects as a spectator (or possibly through a special server backdoor), and that the other spectators can connect to.  They'd be able to float around or chasecam as usual, but: 1. would be unable to bother the actual players with chat or [dis]connect messages, and 2. would be significantly less helpful as a cheating mechanism.

I've been mulling over something like that for awhile now... One thought was to take the "serverdemo" data that q2 can write out, and pipe it over tcp/ip to the relay/mirror server... The relay server would interpret the serverdemo feed (with optional delay), and allow clients to connect as spectators to observe the live "playback".

Or some variation on the above....

Regards,

[UUD-40]

Useful in the event of a q2 wardrobe malfunction.