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Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« on: December 31, 2006, 04:22:52 PM »
I've played Tyr a few times, this guy just does some amazing stuff. Knows where to aim, always knows where I am even if I try to be sneaky and do stuff unusual. Well, see for yourself, here's a demo. Check out some of these shots where he nails me as I'm flying around a corner and he is aiming at the edge of the corner, not even any lead time : /

After watching the demo I still can't figure out how he does half his stuff. I even had him email me his perspective and I'm even more baffled. Turn headphones up all the way, no sounds gave stuff away on a lot of it.. Is this guy just a genious Q2'r or..?

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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 05:55:01 PM »
Nothing too special there, I figure you're just predictable :) A lot of those shots were good timing, and others were not. If he had indeed been "...?"ing, his frequency would have been much higher.
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2007, 09:40:40 PM »
it's ditzu
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2007, 11:48:23 PM »
it's ditzu

Some posts here say "ditzu" is a cheater and has been caught before, is that your point?

I recorded another demo and this one is even MORE amazing then the one I recorded when he knew I was recording it

Bigitup for me main man - Tyr! 
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 04:56:55 AM »
i havent seen the first one yet, but i just watched the second one three times.

Here is what i saw:

5:43 kill at chain.  There were sound pick ups there, so that isnt 100%.
4:34 shot into mega room on player that i couldnt associate sound location for, not for the placement/accuracy of the shot.
2:43 water.  Could not see player hidden by steps, but knew he was there, and well before his teamate standing right there knew about it.
1:41 water.  Now, this one i dont understand, i personally didnt know the player was there, i heard no water sounds, or even would know how he knew he was there.  My understanding is most wh's cant see through water?
0:45 Suspicious shots out of mega room.
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 11:11:07 AM »
Ditzu always had the best aim, too bad it was all frkq2  :alien:

Anyways, your main man tyr = ditzu and to trust ditzu (even w/ ac) is not the smartest idea. Sure he's an upper tier player, but not even close to the best and is not versatile on multiple maps. He's decent on 3 maybe.
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 11:29:00 AM »
one thing in the third demo there also made me wonder too.  As he entered the mega room, he clearly aimed his mouse around his teamate in a clear, smooth, circular motion(but his teamate was out of sight on the other side of the wall).  When he entered the doorway, he was just rounding up the left side of his teamate and then pulled a shot on his opponent to his left.  Wish i could recall the timemark now, i through out my notes.  But that was another highly suspicious move.  To know his teamate's exact location on the other side of the wall from where he was.
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 06:05:28 PM »
Here's the most recent demo I have playing him - After watching this demo - I'm really going to have to call it hacking and if by some means I am wrong it's one hell of a compliment because I don't call people hackers very often. There's just too many shots where I know sound is not what's giving me away. I can feel eye's burning through the walls that see my every move. Take a look at this demo, tell me there isn't some obvious stuff happening in here -->>>
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 09:53:04 PM »
I didn't know tyr was ditzu.  Wasn't he using Plextor for awhile?  I'm pretty sure he was hacking off and on then, as some team matches he was like 60 - 2 and others he'd be 20 - 10.

Tyr does have really good rail aim, but I think he uses r1q2 and arch was even beating him with 100 ping the other day.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 10:22:21 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 08:21:55 AM »
I don't think tyr is cheating, but he could be some games.. never underestimate ditzu hahah. He corner shotted me when i was coming out of chain 2 days ago when I was on his team, so he wasn't walling that game anyways and still did good.

As for the tyr=ditzu situation... I posted in IRC of ditzu on AIM admitting to me that he was plextor, but only after he got banned. So that's a fact.. as for plextor/ditzu being tyr, I thought console linked tyr and plextor in some way, plus they play similarly, and both came out of nowhere.
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Re: Tyr - Genious Q2'r or...? Demo inside
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2007, 04:04:58 PM »
So are you 100% sure that tyr is ditzu?

Console posted awhile back that plextor was definitely ditzu.  Q2 is an old game.  It's not completely impossible that a good player could return to the game after a long absence and be relatively unknown.
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2007, 06:26:36 PM »
So are you 100% sure that tyr is ditzu?

Console posted awhile back that plextor was definitely ditzu.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2007, 07:21:42 PM »
Tyr = ditzu. that being said, tyr is not hacking. he uses r1q2 and anticheat, and that is good enough for me. hes been playing this game a long time, and he certainly has skill.  :uhoh: :bomb:

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2007, 09:11:49 PM »
Tyr = ditzu. that being said, tyr is not hacking. he uses r1q2 and anticheat, and that is good enough for me. hes been playing this game a long time, and he certainly has skill.
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