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Let's suppose there really is a god. Not some wimp deity who can't even create his own time and logic. No, let's suppose the Big Omega is the guy in question, someone so vast and powerful that all your conceptions of god, no matter how elaborate or degenerate, all fit inside with plenty of room to spare. We're talking a god who can happily create walls so high he can't jump over them, who can solve the General Halting Problem, who is benevolent, irrelevant, and malignant at the same time, who exceeds any origin or ending, who is contained by no distinction, who is bigger than any god any religion ever invented or can ever invent. The kind of god that's bigger than this page can distinguish. The god so big he doesn't care whether or not you capitalize his name. The god who owns all names, all behaviors, all attributes, all physics, all specifications, and all infinities. A god who forgives and damns you no matter what you do, who is 100%, completely, utterly, and without bound, unpredictable, an impartial god of random chance and an intimate god of unfailing love at the same time. The mystery god who resembles, cherishes, and ignores you neither more nor less than he resembles, cherishes, and ignores lichen, water, cattle, neutrinos, stars, pistachio jelly beans, the story of the Lusitania, and one particular cherry-red 1968 Plymouth Barracuda.The trouble with most theists is they can't stand the idea of a really big god like this. They want a god that acts like their parents did. Someone who buys you ice cream if you're good and sends you to the eternal lake of fire if you're bad. The idea of a god of howling chaos, crystalline order, and all myriad flowing variations in between just scares them stupid, or else their imaginations are too impoverished to conceptualize someone that large.Give me a religion with a god like this and I might come have tea with you to chat about it. But take your poor excuse with his hands banged onto a tree, or that other poor excuse sitting under the tree clawing his way into his own navel, or that whole tribe of poor excuses playing celestial parlor games with humans for dice, or that poor excuse who doesn't even trouble himself to exist, and leave them at home. All human religions are just pretty children's stories next to Big Omega.
Quote from: Daemia on December 13, 2007, 02:19:45 PMthe fear of godI don't mean to make fun of you, but you really have no idea what you're talking about.
the fear of god
For example God has every emotion you have because you were made in his image. How can you therefore blame him for having an emotion that you yourself have?
I think that large text you had quoted was a bunch of jibberish.
Quadz.. you are a master of picking out other people's Saw dust. Try to understand the idea of context. If she were talking about religion then go ahead and have your own religion or none at all. But don't specify a single religion and margainalize it. That woman does not represent me, and don't pretend that she represents any other person than her self.
This was not "religion is wrath" this was "The God of the Christians is wrath." So yes, feel free to choose your own context to fit your own purposes.
And what makes anyone's opinion on anything more valid than another? How about willingness to understand the Christian religion?
Quote from: reaper on December 13, 2007, 04:11:26 PMI think that large text you had quoted was a bunch of jibberish.Hmmm... Its meaning is crystal clear to me, so I'm pretty sure it's not gibberish.
Just be solemn that you're not the first nor last group to consider the Christian defending his own religion to be the biggot and not worthy of defending it.
For me, these occasional discussions are mainly a fun way for me to see whether I can logically support my own beliefs and positions.