Ye Religion Thread

[DaHanG]

Pretty much what I was thinking.

you can't truthfully say that you feel the world is perfect unless you are completely devoid of empathy or you live in a cave and you don't know any better.

I doubt both of these conditions are true.

The latter?

 

[reaper]

So, are you saying that if you had the power to feed millions of starving people, that you wouldn't do it, because the world is already perfect and can't be improved upon?

yes, because i would create the world as we see it.

you can't say god is as improbable as rolling the big bang dice, and getting this universe, when you don't know much about god, or this universe.

But you are doing the same thing.

[Arm0r]

Only thing that gives me a slight glimmer that god does exzist is the fact you cannot create something from nothing....it is just impossible and cannot be explained, even if everything that we know of today was created by "the big bang"...something had to make the Big Bang happen...what made the components for the big bang?   etc etc etc,  Nothing+Nothing=Nothing.....so there had to be a begining, because to explain otherwise would be futile

[Arm0r]

And just why does "the supernatural" get a free pass to having-always-existed-ville?

If there is a god, what makes you worthy to even pose him/her with the above question?   What makes you so mighty as to be able to question such an entity?

[quadz]

Only thing that gives me a slight glimmer that god does exzist is the fact you cannot create something from nothing....it is just impossible and cannot be explained, even if everything that we know of today was created by "the big bang"...something had to make the Big Bang happen...what made the components for the big bang?

[quadz]

So, are you saying that if you had the power to feed millions of starving people, that you wouldn't do it, because the world is already perfect and can't be improved upon?

yes, because i would create the world as we see it.

No, I'm asking you right here, right now: If you suddenly had the power (somehow) to feed millions of starving people, would you refuse to help them based on your belief that the world is already perfect and can't be improved upon?


Regards,

quadz

[metaL]

damn so we're still on the whole "perfect world" issue... 

what exactly are your beliefs quadz? i'm curious, because so far you've mainly stuck to the simple task of pointing out flaws in reaper's posts.

[Whirlingdervish]

Could be worse... we could still be trying to convince you that you're a monkey.

(don't deny it!)

[DaHanG]

Could be worse... we could still be trying to convince you that you're a monkey.

(don't deny it!)

 

[Arm0r]

Only thing that gives me a slight glimmer that god does exzist is the fact you cannot create something from nothing....it is just impossible and cannot be explained, even if everything that we know of today was created by "the big bang"...something had to make the Big Bang happen...what made the components for the big bang?

[quadz]

what exactly are your beliefs quadz? i'm curious, because so far you've mainly stuck to the simple task of pointing out flaws in reaper's posts.

"A lot of people don't realize what's going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidents and things. They don't realize that there's this like, lattice of coincidence that lays on top of everything. I'll give you an example. Show you what I mean. Suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly, somebody'll say like, plate, or shrimp, or plate of shrimp. Out of the blue. No explanation. No point looking for one either. It's all part of the cosmic unconsciousness."



Well, existentially, I can't imagine in my lifetime ever having any certainty about any of these four ideas:

 

[quadz]

I totally agree. God himself couldn't have come from nothing, either.

[metaL]

Well, first off.. you didnt really explain much about your own beliefs.. your analogies are completely irrelevant, and if you have anything to say other than "whatever dahang says", let me know.  How could anything have ALWAYS EXISTED??? let me quote good ol'... who? oh yeah, Stephen Hawking.. "So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator."  Now, what have i been arguing from the beginning? oh yes, i remember now, that history HAS TO HAVE A BEGINNING, you simply cannot go back in time indefinitely(back to my big argument that infinity does not exist in the physical realm, aka history).  This point is widely agreed upon, and affectively criticizing the posts of reaper does not mean that your argument is legit. 

[DaHanG]

If nothing can exist for infinite, then you're saying either god appeared out of nothingness, or matter appeared out of nothingness. How is this possible?

 

[metaL]

yes, i really am saying that something sort of like that probably did happen. either way, since it defies everything we know as science, i believe that whatever was the first part to emerge was something extraordinary (God?).  lol, very hard to say how everything really went down.