conditional afterlife
You'd think that, but the fabrication of a conditional afterlife based on your life actions and beliefs covers that base.
Quote from: whirlingYou'd think that, but the fabrication of a conditional afterlife based on your life actions and beliefs covers that base.yes, life is a test from god
Quote from: dahangSo most people believe in something "ridiculous", but it is "intrinsic" and constitutes as evidence in favor of a god.I said Einstein beleived god wasn't active because he isn't active in everyday life, i.e, he's not out stopping some car accidents and not others. If god created everything, everything is, in a certain sense, attributed to god. For example, someone recovers from cancer, yes some others don't, but people thank god, because they are so happy for the existence of life. God is active to them, in one sense (he created everything), therefore you can attribute events to god, yet he didn't actually change the mechanics of things.I never said what I personally thought. But people saying they believe god is active, has varying meaning.
So most people believe in something "ridiculous", but it is "intrinsic" and constitutes as evidence in favor of a god.
saying "there was a bang, and here everything is" takes a great leap of faith as well, where did it all come from? for science to be right about it, all of the matter/energy has to be eternal and have no begining...which to me is about as hard to believe as a god making it all.
Without God, if we have to say matter/energy always existed, at least it can have a simple beginning as far as initially being in a chaotic, disorganized state.
You're essentially saying that humans' delusion is evidence of their delusion...as long as you just believe in the Reaper version of a limited amount of intervention (and yet believe the world is perfect, life is a [deliberate] test, etc.)?
You'd think that, but the fabrication of a conditional afterlife based on your life actions and beliefs covers that base.Quote from: reaperyes, life is a test from godQuote from: qwazyTo which, being omnicient, he already knows the answer. So why bother with the test at all? If he doesn't know the answer then he cannot be omnicient. Which is it?
yes, life is a test from godQuote from: qwazyTo which, being omnicient, he already knows the answer. So why bother with the test at all? If he doesn't know the answer then he cannot be omnicient. Which is it?
To which, being omnicient, he already knows the answer. So why bother with the test at all? If he doesn't know the answer then he cannot be omnicient. Which is it?
Quote from: quadzWithout God, if we have to say matter/energy always existed, at least it can have a simple beginning as far as initially being in a chaotic, disorganized state.sounds reasonable...except you don't see cars exploding out of thin air assembling themselves.god gets a free pass
There were cars floating around in space? Maybe cars were God then. Praise Jesus Chrysler!Comparing cars (confirmed man-made compositions) with different random chemical reactions occurring in outer space is kinda pointless.
Quote from: quadzWithout God, if we have to say matter/energy always existed, at least it can have a simple beginning as far as initially being in a chaotic, disorganized state.sounds reasonable...except you don't see cars exploding out of thin air assembling themselves.
Quote from: focalorThere were cars floating around in space? Maybe cars were God then. Praise Jesus Chrysler!Comparing cars (confirmed man-made compositions) with different random chemical reactions occurring in outer space is kinda pointless.You have the universe in a ball of dense matter, it explodes and creates humans (who would be generally without fear of commiting sin without fearing god), and humans create cars. Seems a bit preposterous to me to explain it away with anthropic principle, and say it would just be simpler if everything exists.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principleThat may be the case, but there's a huge gap in knowledge. So it's a nice thought, and a nice guess that the universe just is. If it is possible, it's simpler. But there are how many planets? Maybe an alien race that controls good and evil, but I think there is a traditional type god personally.
No. It didn't just go BOOM and then POOF here's the humans walking around wearing tennis shoes and driving BMW's. There was a long tedious process that brought humans to that point. And there was a long tedious process that brought humans and all other life forms from small microorganisms to much larger and much more complex organisms. Perhaps if humans live long enough on this planet without fucking it up and killing it all, we'll be able to pinpoint where life begins. Maybe not. After all, if it took every organism millions of years to develop into what it is today, that would be one hell of a long science experiment.