You arbitrarily proclaiming that they're the "best minds in history" means nothing to me...
If you want to investigate the origins of humanity as a hobby be my guest, but keep it to yourself until you discover something definitive.
The 'great minds' you speak of did not remind everyone of every possible theory in existence...
a Nova program airing tonight, entitled The Bible's Buried SecretsThe Bible's Buried Secrets.Apparently it's an archeological exploration of the first five books of the Bible.
Quote from: ni-ux on November 18, 2008, 08:17:17 PMYou arbitrarily proclaiming that they're the "best minds in history" means nothing to me...You didn't even read it, did you? Neil deGrasse Tyson gave specific examples from historical figures who he referred to as the greatest minds in science.Quote from: ni-ux on November 18, 2008, 08:17:17 PMIf you want to investigate the origins of humanity as a hobby be my guest, but keep it to yourself until you discover something definitive. Plenty of definitive examples were given. Troll?Quote from: ni-ux on November 18, 2008, 08:17:17 PMThe 'great minds' you speak of did not remind everyone of every possible theory in existence...Utter nonsense.I suppose you are attempting to demonstrate the technique by which "apathetic fundamentalists will rule the land", by exemplifying a zero-energy form of trolling.Big deal.
Why would I read any of your posts? You have no argument, your little hobby of pretending that you can determine where life came from or pretending that others can determine where life came from is no concern of mine. You just aren't understanding, its just a hobby, nothing that you should be sharing with people.
Quote from: quadz on November 18, 2008, 08:40:37 PMQuote from: ni-ux on November 18, 2008, 08:17:17 PMYou arbitrarily proclaiming that they're the "best minds in history" means nothing to me...You didn't even read it, did you? Neil deGrasse Tyson gave specific examples from historical figures who he referred to as the greatest minds in science.Quote from: ni-ux on November 18, 2008, 08:17:17 PMIf you want to investigate the origins of humanity as a hobby be my guest, but keep it to yourself until you discover something definitive. Plenty of definitive examples were given. Troll?Quote from: ni-ux on November 18, 2008, 08:17:17 PMThe 'great minds' you speak of did not remind everyone of every possible theory in existence...Utter nonsense.I suppose you are attempting to demonstrate the technique by which "apathetic fundamentalists will rule the land", by exemplifying a zero-energy form of trolling.Big deal.Why would I read any of your posts? You have no argument, your little hobby of pretending that you can determine where life came from or pretending that others can determine where life came from is no concern of mine. You just aren't understanding, its just a hobby, nothing that you should be sharing with people.Religion causes controversy, hatred, and death. Find something more productive to be involved with.
how dare you your lucky to fucking even know i didnt brainwash you fuck im your only fucking hope
I don't see how athiesm isn't a religion, even if you consider it "not playing".
Well I actually never used the word "athiest" in The End of Faith.And I never thought to not use it. I simply didn't think of myself as anathiest. In the same way that I don't think of myself as a non-astrologer.No one has to wake up in the morning and repudiate astrology byaccepting the identity as a non-astrologer. Virtually no-one believes inZeus, and we haven't defined ourself in opposition to paganism.We're not non-pagans.And I think it's also useful to point out that every devoutChristian stands in the same relationship to Hinduism or to Islam,as I do. Christians look at what's going on in Muslim discourse,they look at the claim that the Koran is the perfect word of thecreator of the universe, and they are not persuaded. And that's allmy "athiesm" consists of. I'm not persuaded by these patently ridiculousclaims. And I am persuaded by the evidence that these people are partof a culture that is designed to not look critically at its owndiscourse. And so Christians can see that of Islam, they can point outthe errors of thinking there--they just don't point it out inChristianty.From my point of view--this is where I may differ fromsome of my colleagues--I don't think the word "athiesm" ultimatelyis necessary or even useful. And I think it's actually, in the end,harmful. Because, the rejection of absurdity is much bigger thanathiesm--it is science. Reason is much bigger than athiesm. And,having standards of evidence and argument is much bigger than athiesm. And that's all we need to repudiate most of what mostpeople do most of the time in the name of religion.Religious faith is really the permission people give one anotherto believe things strongly without evidence. And we recognizethat to be pathological in every other area of our lives.
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, none will suffice."
Quote from: [BTF]EyEsTrAiN on November 19, 2008, 12:02:28 PM"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, none will suffice." Eye! Buddy! Long time, no?I've heard that before, can you tell me who said it? It's true regardless of which side of discussion you're on.QD
Life Lesson: Evolution or Else?Nov 19, 2008 | 8:55 AM PSTCategory: News Featured On: MyFoxDFWThe Texas Board of Education takes on a touchy topic today. And, ultimately, it will determine: *How to teach children about how life started on this planet.* Hundreds of science professors say: if we keep doing what we've been doing, then we're hurting our children's chances at succeeding in college and later in life.Right now-- public schools teach the theory of evolution. Teachers and students consider the strengths AND weaknesses of the idea (including alternative concepts). It's been that way for years. Most board members believe this is the way to go. New science standards will likely be set for next year.But-- 95 percent of university level science professors say schools should ONLY teach evolution... forget the alternatives... forget strengths and weaknesses. A group called the Texas Freedom Network put the study together.More than 400 (public and private university) professors took the survey. They say: they believe teaching kids concepts-- other than evolution-- "harms" their college readiness and makes them less able to compete for jobs in the future.And the study makes sure to mention-- these professors help determine who gets into their schools.So what should the board of education do? Make sure science teachers stick to the current lesson plan? Or "evolve" science lesson plans into "Evolution Only"? Would that change what you teach your kids at home? Look forward to hearing from you.