Another Quake 2 package - nQuake2

[empezar]

nQuake2 is another Quake 2 installer that brings you Q2Pro, Action Quake II, CTF and Eraser bot in a neat package.

The project is developed by me. You are welcome to enter your suggestions for improvements in this thread.

The project webpage is www.nquake2.com

Hey guys!

I decided to make a Quake 2 version of my QuakeWorld package nQuake.

It's come a long way towards being finished, but I need some help from you guys with the finishing touches.

What I'm looking for is this:

1) A decent configuration. I would like to get a DISCUSSION on the "must have" configurations that will be needed for a new player. The configuration should be competitive but easy to use. Useful aliases that don't over-complicate things are welcome. I like "behind the scene" aliases that are complex in code but simple to the user.

2) High resolution textures that aren't HUGE. I use jpeg textures for nQuake (1) and they work fine. I would like something like this for nQuake2. Not just textures for the maps. Models too, please. If they exist.

3) HUD textures, and instructions on how to use them ;-)

4) Need help compiling the latest Q2pro client from sources. I have no idea how to do this. nQuake2 will be Windows only so I will only need a Windows binary.

Any help is appreciated!

[empezar]

(Update: you can try the current version out here: http://nquake.com/2)

I am aware of the following issues:

1) You get file errors when trying to connect to an AQ2 server.
2) The high resolution textures don't seem to work. Help out please.
3) The configuration file is not even half done yet (I have only begun tweaking the binds). This is where I need your help.
4) The Q2pro client is not the latest git version. Help
5) The installer graphics aren't 100% done yet.

The process of tweaking the package to be *perfect* is a very long process. Please don't judge it until it has had time to mature.

[quadz]

Welcome, empezar!

Quick note to save time if anyone's wondering, many of the pros & cons of r1q2 vs. q2pro have already been discussed here:

http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/topic/5941/nquake-for-quake-2


Regards,

[empezar]

Thanks!

Also, I would like a short description of Action Quake II that I can put in the installer (I'm making it an optional download).

[X'tyfe]

There have been many quake2 start packs. but having you do one would surely make it official. Seeing how successful nQuake is, this will be an honor.

Though i'd be against using Q2Pro, R1Q2 really is the client most used by the community After seeing the discussion between you guys on quakeworld.nu, i was not aware things were this way and it has made me question my use of r1q2 now

[quadz]

After seeing the discussion between you guys on quakeworld.nu, i was not aware things were this way and it has made me question my use of r1q2 now

Could you be more specific about what you view differently after reading that thread?

I was going to stop responding there to the anticheat and GPL discussion, since it had become off-topic to the nQuake2 installer itself. But I'm concerned about allowing some of the incorrect information espoused by one of the posters to go unchallenged.

[empezar]

What are the top 10 most likely places where pak0.pak (full version) can be found?

Anyone know where Quake 2 bought via steam stores its pak0.pak?

[[BTF]Sigma]

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\quake2\baseq2"

???

[quadz]

Just for fun/curioisity, I scanned our Q2 logfiles for December (1st through 26th) for most of our Dallas servers, to see which Q2 client versions are most active.

Here are the current results, based on connect frequency.

Q2 versions Dec 01-26, 2012 (Dallas servers)
----------------------------------------------------
10861   3.20 x86 Oct 16 1998 Win32 RELEASE
8397    R1Q2 b8012 x86 Sep 13 2011 Win32 RELEASE
5391    R1Q2 b7904 x86 Oct 25 2008 Win32 RELEASE
617     AprQ2 v1.211 x86 Nov 7 2007 Win32 RELEASE
478     3.21 NON-WIN32 Jun 6 2006 NON-WIN32
313     q2pro r1093 May 30 2011 Win32 x86
261     3.23 x86 Feb 23 2010 Win32 RELEASE
221     NoCheat 2.40 x86 May 4 2004 Win32 RELEASE
197     3.19 x86 Sep 1 1998 Win32 RELEASE
168     EGL v0.3.1-R1: Sep 14 2007 Win32-x86
133     R1Q2 b7864 x86 Sep 30 2008 Win32 RELEASE
130     3.19 x86 Jul 21 2007 Win32 RELEASE
104     3.21 NON-WIN32 Jan 11 2009 NON-WIN32
97      Quake II (Quake2World.net) v1.212 Unknown Nov 20 2012 Apple
95      R1Q2 b7904 x64 Oct 25 2008 Linux
80      3.21 i386 Jul 6 2012 Linux
72      R1Q2 b7759 x86 Jun 3 2008 Win32 RELEASE
63      3.21 x86 Mar 26 2010 Win32 RELEASE
61      CROTCHED Q2PRO r1093 Jan 8 2012 FreeBSD i386
57      3.21 NON-WIN32 Apr 3 2006 NON-WIN32
44      R1Q2 b7187 x86 Feb 9 2007 Win32 RELEASE
41      3.21 x86 Jul 16 2002 Win32 RELEASE
40      3.23 x86 Nov 16 2009 Win32 RELEASE
38      0.20 x86 Jan 11 2010 Win32 RELEASE
37      q2pro r364 Jun 20 2009 Win32 x86
35      0.20 x86 Nov 2 2009 Win32 RELEASE
30      3.20 x86 Dec 7 1998 Win32 RELEASE
29      *****CRScumQuake2 v0.5win32 - modified AprQ2 by Cheaters-r-Scum i386 Aug 16 2009 Linux
23      r1q2-wff r47:dd56a497bb3b i386 GNU/Linux
21      3.21 Unknown Aug 18 2012 Linux
20      Quake II (Quake2World.net) v1.212 Unknown Sep 15 2012 Apple
19      R1Q2 b7387 x86 Sep 14 2007 Win32 RELEASE
18      3.21 x86 Nov 10 2003 Win32 RELEASE
16      3.21 NON-WIN32 Oct 10 2010 NON-WIN32
15      3.21 x86 Dec 28 2001 Win32 RELEASE
14      q2pro v0.12 x86 Feb 10 2004 Win32 RELEASE
14      5.00 amd64 Dec 6 2012 MacOS X
11      0.44 x86 Sep 11 2003 Win32 RELEASE
11      3.21 x86 Oct 18 2004 Win32 RELEASE
11      Quake II (Quake2World.net) v1.212 x86-64 Sep 16 2012 Linux
10      R1Q2 b5510 x86 May 15 2005 Win32 RELEASE
9       3.21 x86 Jan 18 2002 Win32 RELEASE
8       3.21 x86 Aug 20 2002 Win32 RELEASE
8       CrotchR1Q2
6       3.21 i386 Dec 22 2012 Linux
6       3.21 NON-WIN32 Mar 29 2009 NON-WIN32
6       NoCheat 2.40 x86 Apr 28 2004 Win32 RELEASE
6       3.21 x86 Dec 1 2006 Win32 RELEASE
6       q2pro r1093-231-gaa21 Dec 9 2012 Win32 x86
6       R1Q2 b7322 x86 Apr 10 2007 Win32 RELEASE
6       AprQ2 v1.21 x86 Oct 28 2007 Win32 RELEASE
5       CrotchR1Q2-sdlsound
5       0.2.1 Oct 31 2010 i686-linux-gnu
4       3.21 x86 Nov 29 2012 Win32 RELEASE
4       **CrotchQuake2 v0.7 by CRS - dedicated to Olga from Argentina ** x86 Aug 17 2009 Win32 RELEASE
4       5.00 i386 Sep 9 2012 Linux
4       3.21 x86 Feb 19 2003 Win32 Q2ACE RELEASE
3       3.20 x86 Feb 4 1999 Win32 RELEASE
3       Q2E 1.0 Alpha Win32-x86 (Jul 4 2006)
3       3.20 i386 Oct 14 1998 Linux
3       3.21 x86 Jul 9 2003 Win32 RELEASE
3       q2pro r666 Dec 10 2012 Win32 x86
3       3.21 x86 Dec 17 2012 Win32 RELEASE
3       **CrotchQuake2 v0.7 by CRS - credits: Maniac's AprQ2, Math's crotch x86 Aug 17 2009 Win32 RELEASE
2       R1Q2 b6964 x86 Dec 17 2006 Win32 RELEASE
2       EGL v0.3.0: Jun 5 2006 Win32-x86
2       AprQ2 v1.18 x86 Sep 28 2005 Win32 RELEASE
2       5.00 amd64 Sep 9 2012 Linux
2       Q2E 0.40 Win32-x86 (Jun 29 2004)
2       3.21 i386 Jan 28 2005 Linux
2       3.21 x86 Dec 29 2001 Win32 RELEASE
2       3.21 x86 Mar 26 2002 Win32 RELEASE
2       3.21 Unknown Dec 18 2011 Linux
2       Q2E 0.26c Win32-x86 (Jan 28 2004)
2       3.21 x86 Sep 24 2005 Win32 RELEASE
2       3.21 x86 Aug 4 2003 Win32 RELEASE
1       3.21 x86 Nov 4 2002 Win32 Q2ACE RELEASE
1       3.21 x86 Aug 7 2002 Win32 RELEASE
1       3.21 Unknown Jan 30 2011 Linux
1       3.21 x86 Apr 20 2002 Win32 Q2ACE RELEASE
1       q2pro r1093-231-gaa21 Dec 9 2012 Linux x86_64
1       4.02 i386 Jan 13 2012 Linux
1       5.00 i386 Oct 17 2012 Linux
1       3.19 x86 Oct 17 2012 Win32 DEBUG
1       q2pro r1093-166-gd2af Aug 25 2012 OpenBSD i386
1       5.00 amd64 Dec 23 2012 Linux
1       Quake II (Quake2World.net) v1.212 x86-64 Jun 27 2012 Linux
1       3.24 x86 Nov 26 2012 Win32 RELEASE
1       EGL v0.2.4: Mar 28 2006 Win32-x86
1       R1Q2 b7587 x86 Jan 13 2008 Win32 RELEASE
1       3.21 x86 Mar 3 2002 Win32 RELEASE
1       R1Q2 b6808 x86 Sep 4 2006 Win32 RELEASE

It will be interesting if q2pro starts to move up on the list due to nQuake2. 


Regards,

quadz

[r1]

Hello,
Since we're on the subject of Quake 2 Starters, maybe this will help you from reinventing the wheel, here's the one I made a while back, I've only added the logo recently:
http://www.netdoo.com/wodx/q2s.zip

It gets you the same exact files as q2s, so basically all you need without getting bloated, and does it from original files it downloads from the official sources. I believe in keeping things simple and compact, but you can easily add more download sources for bright skins, hd packs, clients, mods, configs or whatever, by simply editing the xml.
I've also got a quake 3 starter, that works on the same principle, that will be available at the url below, once I get back from the holidays:

http://q3s.tastyspleen.net/

Cheers,
Ruiner

[VaeVictis]

heres my tdm binds

http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=17785.msg178595#msg178595

can give you my whole config if you want, though it is specific to r1q2 so you would have to modify it no one here thats good really uses q2pro... so... good luck finding a competitive config built for it

far as other things go, really just want bright skins, high res textures, and maybe a better hud (with q3 icons, brighter letters) and that should be it... people can go in later if they want alternate sounds and stuff

personally, biggest alternate sounds I like are q3 armor sound, qw mh sound, qw rocket sound, and ricochet sounding rail shot

there are other starter packages you can look into for resources, ely's q2 starter on the main tastyspleen page, and jehar's q2kicker to name a couple good ones done here at ts



best thing you can do to get help here is to ask for something more specific, and generally some one will have the resources to help you out otherwise things get looked over and forgotten quickly as people go off on tangents

[empezar]

If we forget about the anticheating module (which the QW community abandoned long ago due to GPL issues and the false sense of security it brought), what differences are there between Q2pro and R1Q2? Are the commands very different? Is Q2pro lacking in some areas? Can I use a R1Q2 config in Q2pro without problems?

[VaeVictis]

things like location tags in chat binds will be different, unless you use things like the mod specific tags for opentdm like %L for location

as well as specific variables to a renderer or client will be different

you are better off making a config from the ground up, and pulling in bits and pieces of what you would want

[empezar]

Are there any good bots out there except for eraser bot (which is the only bot I remember)?

Any of them come with a bit less files, or at least more "pakable" than eraser?

[[BTF]Sigma]

IIRC the Gladiator bot was better than Eraser bot. Not sure on the size of the files.