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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 07:51:33 PM »
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2011, 08:37:53 PM »
I say force AC on people ONLY after they have been caught cheating or are suspected by MANY top players and the Admin.  Actually, if they are caught cheating then BAN the mofos.


ok well lets see what admin has to say and has said before

Hi Don,

A few of the admins have wondered about that player for some time now.

Haven't got anything definitive in a demo yet.

If you do happen to record a demo showing some clearly suspicous shots, please do send it to console@tastyspleen.net.

Thanks,

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(in referring to the demo posted of Ax2Grind, from the bot drop section, in the the "Another Suspicious Wallhacker" thread that was originally meant for me.. ROFL. yeah, well the evidence im providing comes from A2G.dm2 posted by panjoo)

4. He walls. I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone. If you do not recognize this then you must be suffering from a very serious illness or disorder.

5. A2G is indefinitely using aim assistance, it is seen NOT IN HIS SSG, like all of you guys seem to obsess over, but in frags 13 and 31. there is no way around it. In #13, A2G fires a rocket directly at his opponent, with his crosshair nowhere near this opponent. After the rocket hits, his crosshair immediately makes a perfect and straight path towards the exact center point on his opponent's model (by scale) and makes a dead stop. The path, the position, and the hault are tell tale signs of a aimbotting, and the chances of a nonbot doing as he did in this situation are so minute, that you would be more likely to be struck by lightning, be engulfed in a tidal wave, and win the lottery at the same time. (one out of 4,534,243,000,000,438).



I have made a movie to help people interpret the Az2Grind BOT decision.. (demo is posted here: http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=1690.msg26435#msg26435)


This definitely looks like an aimbot. 
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 09:00:02 PM »
I like to play and purposely make it look like I'm wallhacking.  :badgrin:
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2011, 09:03:27 PM »
Why is it  that I never get called out for hacking? I'm feeling left out here :(
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2011, 09:05:11 PM »
Quote from: X'tyfe on February 22, 2011, 09:03:27 PM
Quote from: X'tyfe on February 22, 2011, 09:03:27 PM
Why is it  that I never get called out for hacking? I'm feeling left out here :(

you fucking split rail raping, weapons stopper whoring, dodgebot using piece of shit  :ban:  :forceac:
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2011, 11:02:55 PM »
strange thing about this guy is that he used to be a deadly dm ffa player...hard to beat...now he's definitely not one of the top dm ffa players and he usually bounces really quick once one of the better players comes in and starts winning maps

not sure if his ability has just slipped from not being as active...but even if he walls it doesn't really seem to help him against decent players

Could be hardware issues. In 2009-2010, I kept shit talking/harassing him to play tdm, cuz all he would do is just spec games. IIRC, he always refused due to some erratic frame skipping, which was the other reason why he wouldn't play jump mod either.
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2011, 03:42:51 AM »
Alpha,

The stuff you posted was 5 yrs old and not enough proof was found back then  :dohdohdoh:

Today you are doing the same thing, except even less people are suspect of his play.

It almost seems like a power trip for you to make someone have to install AC.
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2011, 04:00:05 AM »
Alpha,

The stuff you posted was 5 yrs old and not enough proof was found back then  :dohdohdoh:

Today you are doing the same thing, except even less people are suspect of his play.

It almost seems like a power trip for you to make someone have to install AC.

who cares how old a post was? and alot of people r still sus about his play, they just don't mention it on the forums. what is so bad about having someone install ac? it doesn't hurt anything does it?
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2011, 04:12:13 AM »
here is another demo taken. few sus ones in here but frag 8 to 9, the underwater shot, he had no way of knowing someone was there. see for yourself. actually this demo is probably the most obvious one i have seen of him walling
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2011, 05:02:35 AM »
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2011, 05:05:01 AM »
Holy crap on frag 9.   Thats worth a major look.  WTF.

EDIT:  Nvm,  I thought both shots were hits.   I've never thought to do it but shooting either side of the ladder is actually not a bad idea. It's going to catch people coming to that door from either side of the column. 

I say logical spam since there was obviously a fresh ended battle underwater.


The search continues.  Although I fully support forcing AC on erik.  :evilgrin:

I attached frag 9 clipped and looped.  nothing else between 8-9 looked weird.
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Re: proof once and for all axetogrind walls
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2011, 05:07:16 AM »
frag 8 to 9, the underwater shot, he had no way of knowing someone was there

Hmm, he shoots two hidden things underwater on that frag.  First a corpse (left), then a player (right).

Not sure why he would aim at the corpse unless he just felt like trying to shoot it.  Or if he was just spamming in that direction.  But the aim is pretty dead-on both objects.

I'll be out of town today, but I'm interested in other opinions on this frag by admins & experienced players.


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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2011, 05:26:41 AM »
There was a body vis-able on the left?

I really need a wallhack to watch these things,  MPC here I come :)


On rewatch,  the underwater battle isn't so obvious.  But the person getting shards is...  :exqueezeme:

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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2011, 05:41:22 AM »
Either way i still 100% believe he is walling, no question about it. Nothing will change my mind unless he plays with ac and plays the exact same way, which i highly doubt he will be able to.
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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2011, 05:49:03 AM »
well ill tell you what, i uploaded a wh just to watch this demo, and unless he has a way better one that i do... hes fucking better than a wall hack cause his sound awareness is nice...  i must admit i cant see through water with it so i dunno how well this really is, but i can see through quite a bit off walls and i still dont see much of obvious at all.. i did see 1 part but you just cant say somthing about 1 thing, that could just be random, i dunno what to say.. my guess goes to hes not walling hes just good with awarness of maps.. but im not him n im not sticking my neck out to get chopped again for anyone n their bs.. so thats my last post about ax, you know my opinion.
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