stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual

[Whirlingdervish]

99% of black people in my area don't pronounce the "r" at the end of any word, so around here (at least)they're really saying stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual when they say "stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual". Black peoples non pronunciation of the letter "R" is the only reason "stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual" exsists.

now THAT sounds racist!

 

By what definition
 

I said 'sounds' 

I don't think it is tho.

 

[BIG DICK RICK]

lol...funny this thread was started and I just now saw it....fanny got all butthurt that I used this word yesterday in IRC and told me not to say it again...obviously being the cool guy that I am, I say it again and it is followed promptly with a kick/ban from the channel rofl.  I live near Detroit in Michigan...more than half my friends are black and use that god damn word more than any other word known to man.  I find the word to be funny, the people who take it over-serious are even more funny.  It's a fucking word, lol.  Even Gator called me a racist prick for using the word so freely.  The guy doesn't even fucking know me yet I'm a racist?  hahahah, some people are getting a little too serious on the interwebs lately and need to seriously get out a bit more or get laid.  Get over yourselves you fucking whine asses

[Arm0r]

Looks like Quadz little mini generals are getting a bit power hungry, might wanna tug on that leash a bit Quadz.

[quadz]

Looks like Quadz little mini generals are getting a bit power hungry, might wanna tug on that leash a bit Quadz.

Arm0r you are fined one credit for a violation of the Trolling Morality Code.

[Whirlingdervish]

what? we aren't using quatloos?!

[peewee_RotA]

I pretty much have to say that having, asking for, or wanting clarification on an official policy for this is word is retarded. I'd like to also know the official stance on buttsex, pedofilia accusations, the "hamburger helper"
"hamburger helper", and telling someone that because time is of the essence, no more Italians are allowed to travel this way. (we can't let another dego by)

[[BTF]5antana]

I believe buttsexs is legal unless it is by suprise, which is handled on a case-by-case basis by our sophisticated team of trolls.

[jägermonsta]

I live near Detroit in Michigan...more than half my friends are black and use that god damn word more than any other word known to man.

By Detroit Michigan he means...

[Kami]

99% of black people in my area don't pronounce the "r" at the end of any word, so around here (at least)they're really saying stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual when they say "stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual". Black peoples non pronunciation of the letter "R" is the only reason "stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual" exsists.

i know some chinese people around me, i believe they speak mandarin.  i hear them say a word that sounds close to "nigg-r" all the time or "nikker".  but just because it sounds similar to a word that may be offensive doesn't mean it is the word in question.  we have to assume that the phonetic value of a word has little in relation to intent/meaning (and im not arguing about the manner in which it's said.  i merely mean the phonetic sound of the word).  just because they pronounce it differently in your example doesn't mean its the same word and the same meaning.  infact there's lots of cases where foreign people with different accents pronounce words differently so that they may sound like an offensive word, but when you ask them again what they're trying to say its obvious they didn't intend what you previously assumed.

i'm glad this is bringing up different examples to debate on.

[[BTF]Jehar]

I think this conversation (and yes, I'm thankful that after 3 pages it's still a conversation) has gotten around from "what is an offensive word?" to "what is a word?", so we're delving into a significantly different philisophical zone.

So, to recap:

-There are many people who use certain words who mean nothing offensive by them, and in fact in their area it is used as common slang.
-There are also some other people who are genuinely offended by the word, either due to a generation gap or simple geography.
-There are a great many people on the servers, and an increasing number on irc, who say things of such offensiveness and sheer volume that it becomes needed to mute them in order to keep the place sane. When we see people spamming, there is usually no mistake.

-Lastly, there is the fuzzy category of people who don't spam, but will almost always use one or two words at a time per line. Perhaps coincidentally, these same people also use plenty of the aforementioned "offensive" words.

So, we're left with the problem of people who are arguably not spamming, but they are being really annoying and offensive simply through their mannerisms.
Example below (names removed for some amount of protection):

A: he didn't
B: u better not
C: She is
B: huh
C: LOLZ
C: I did
B: im what
B: no u didnt
B: bs
C: Remember the link?
C: xD
B: what link

So, no offensive words, but I for one see such aol-speak as really, really annoying and detrimental to the channel. When offensive words and these mannerisms are combined, that's when we get into these major arguments.
It's a blurry line, and what constitutes a mute\kick is really difficult to be concrete about sometimes. In fact, I'll still adhere to thinking that a simple word mute is much more concrete and rational then blurry "annoying" mutes. Of course, I could be the only one annoyed by the type of chatter referenced above, but that's my take on the situation.

[Quest]

I would like to just step back & give my opinion on this topic overall.

The word "stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual" or "stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual" or however you want to spell it has always bothered me. Was it how I was raised? or how I became to understand the meaning of the word initially? Probably. Either way, the way I look at it, the words original meaning was used in a derogatory way & I simply don't like to see it used, that's all.

I would also like to comment on the fact that "tastyspleen admins" are over stepping their bounds (as was previously mentioned). The admins for tastyspleen are here to basically "babysit" the servers & try and deal with any rising issues to the best of their abilitiy. Tastyspleen as a community, imo, lets people say/do what they please, but there are a few rules they request be followed. Is this really a big deal? If they asked you to not use certain words or to not behave a certain way, why wouldn't you just say ok & carry on? I guess I don't understand why this is such an issue sometimes.

Anyways, I try to avoid this kind of banter because it really isn't worthwile & it really doesn't solve anything in the end. Either way, my 2 cents.

[[BTF]Sigma]

self.$0.02 Keep it between people you know and not out in public because it's not widely accepted.

[QwazyWabbit]

i know some chinese people around me, i believe they speak mandarin.  i hear them say a word that sounds close to "nigg-r" all the time or "nikker".  but just because it sounds similar to a word that may be offensive doesn't mean it is the word in question. 

My wife teaches and speaks Mandarin.

The words in question are nèi gè in the Pinyin spelling. The Chinese characters are 那個 and you might spell it in "engrish" as ney ga. In Mandarin it means "that one". The fact that it is a relative pronoun accounts for the frequency of occurance. In Beijing they pronounce their mandarin with an 'r' ending more emphasized at the ending of a compound word such as this, in that case the Pinyin might show nèi gèr and sound much more like the offensive english word. You can tell a Beijing native or educated person by the -r coloration of his Mandarin speech.

As for the english word in question. The intent of the speaker is to offend the listener. No doubt about it.

[peewee_RotA]

My wife teaches and speaks Mandarin.

The words in question are nèi gè in the Pinyin spelling. The Chinese characters are 那個 and you might spell it in "engrish" as ney ga. In Mandarin it means "that one". The fact that it is a relative pronoun accounts for the frequency of occurance. In Beijing they pronounce their mandarin with an 'r' ending more emphasized at the ending of a compound word such as this, in that case the Pinyin might show nèi gèr and sound much more like the offensive english word. You can tell a Beijing native or educated person by the -r coloration of his Mandarin speech.

As for the english word in question. The intent of the speaker is to offend the listener. No doubt about it.

I always thought that this story was interesting:
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/canadian-family-shocked-by-stereotypical ethnic ghetto-style individual-brown-furniture-from-china.html

Although in this one, the owner is a member of the whiny instant gratification generation. They  apologize and fix the software, and that's not good enough for HER. What a loser.

[Whirlingdervish]

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As for the english word in question. The intent of the speaker is to offend the listener. No doubt about it.

Unless of course the speaker and his audience are urban black people, and using the term interchangeably
with "guy/friend/buddy/person" as they have been known to do frequently amongst themselves.

I guess the same could be said for calling people assholes tho.
If I'm an asshole, the next guy is an asshole and we both agree on our relative assholishness, then neither of us would intend to offend the other by calling one another assholes. We might even mean it in an endearing fashion or we might be using the word because it infers a sense of community or kinship between us, since "buddy/friend/pal" isn't very descriptive and really indicates nothing in common but a liking for one another.