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tastyspleen.net / Re: Clemency for the banned?
« on: January 27, 2024, 10:08:05 PM »
I think Spawny should have been banned much sooner. If not for her sake, for everybody else's sake.
When she started to misinterpret greetings and hallucinate personal attacks out of nowhere is when she should have been banned. I don't know exactly when this happened.
I don't think what ultimately happened to Laura was unfair. It was the best thing that could have happened when she was at the point she was at.
Could something else have been worked out? Is it even worth it to think about it? I don't think so.
There were so many times Laura stepped over the line, I can't even begin to imagine how many. She definitely abused peoples' trust and harassed others. There are people who did the same thing to her as well. I can say that because I was one of those people. I don't lose too much sleep over this, however.
There are so many logs, forums posts, and DM's that out there, too many to count. I actually lost all of my logs between March 2010 and May 2010 because my computer had a virus. My parents re-imaged the computer and it deleted my files.
Until a genuine collection of historical data and logs is cultivated in one place, the full, objective timeline and narrative of Spawn Girl will remain hazy for those who don't have the time or patience to sift through everything. Some of the details are a little hazy myself as I don't remember every interaction I've ever had with her.
quadz did and said a lot of things to Laura behind the scenes as well. Some of it became public, some of it didn't. The logs that didn't are what is "lost".
One such example is the exchange she had with quadz where she agreed to license her overrides under a Creative Commons license. This directly disproves the point that her work was "stolen" because the entire email exchange is public: http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=14266.msg149923#msg149923
There are many other examples like this, but it's too many to sift through. This one was memorable because it was a pretty big deal at the time, and it still didn't stop her from publicly posting psychotic rants all the way until late 2011.
I personally don't have any problem talking about Spawn Girl. This happened 14 years ago at this point. I don't see it as being any different than talking about anything else that happened that long ago.
There are many things that Laura did and said that are still funny to me looking back, but are now underpinned with the knowledge they came from a mind that just wasn't well.
That's just my perspective on it. I choose to take an empathetic view on Laura even after all of the lies, harassment, abuse and threats. That's my "problem", if you want to call it that. You may disagree with that, but that's okay with me.
Your perspective may be more negative, or more positive. It may be based on real interactions you had with her or it may be based on hearsay. It is what it is.
As I said before, I just hope Laura's doing better now.
I'll just leave it at that, but if anybody has a genuine problem or if I'm remembering things wrong, just DM me about it for now.
Is traps,
-xana
When she started to misinterpret greetings and hallucinate personal attacks out of nowhere is when she should have been banned. I don't know exactly when this happened.
I don't think what ultimately happened to Laura was unfair. It was the best thing that could have happened when she was at the point she was at.
Could something else have been worked out? Is it even worth it to think about it? I don't think so.
There were so many times Laura stepped over the line, I can't even begin to imagine how many. She definitely abused peoples' trust and harassed others. There are people who did the same thing to her as well. I can say that because I was one of those people. I don't lose too much sleep over this, however.
There are so many logs, forums posts, and DM's that out there, too many to count. I actually lost all of my logs between March 2010 and May 2010 because my computer had a virus. My parents re-imaged the computer and it deleted my files.
Until a genuine collection of historical data and logs is cultivated in one place, the full, objective timeline and narrative of Spawn Girl will remain hazy for those who don't have the time or patience to sift through everything. Some of the details are a little hazy myself as I don't remember every interaction I've ever had with her.
quadz did and said a lot of things to Laura behind the scenes as well. Some of it became public, some of it didn't. The logs that didn't are what is "lost".
One such example is the exchange she had with quadz where she agreed to license her overrides under a Creative Commons license. This directly disproves the point that her work was "stolen" because the entire email exchange is public: http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=14266.msg149923#msg149923
There are many other examples like this, but it's too many to sift through. This one was memorable because it was a pretty big deal at the time, and it still didn't stop her from publicly posting psychotic rants all the way until late 2011.
I personally don't have any problem talking about Spawn Girl. This happened 14 years ago at this point. I don't see it as being any different than talking about anything else that happened that long ago.
There are many things that Laura did and said that are still funny to me looking back, but are now underpinned with the knowledge they came from a mind that just wasn't well.
That's just my perspective on it. I choose to take an empathetic view on Laura even after all of the lies, harassment, abuse and threats. That's my "problem", if you want to call it that. You may disagree with that, but that's okay with me.
Your perspective may be more negative, or more positive. It may be based on real interactions you had with her or it may be based on hearsay. It is what it is.
As I said before, I just hope Laura's doing better now.
I'll just leave it at that, but if anybody has a genuine problem or if I'm remembering things wrong, just DM me about it for now.
Is traps,
-xana
