Fallout 3

[DaHanG]

I've been to chicago, have you been to Peru?

No, I've never been to Peru. But sometimes I like to pretend that I'm there. What I often do is go into the bathroom, take a great big massive shit, and close my eyes and imagine that I'm there. The scent of human shit gives me many vivid mental images of what life must be like in Peru on a daily basis.

 

[The Dreaming Dragon]

I got Fallout 3 yesterdayand having finished 1 and played 2,I can say it keep some of what I liked in this game.

The art direction is wonderful,and is true to the spirit of the franchise. The S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system is intact,and I can't really tell how radically different the system is from the first 2 games. If the "adult themes" are watered down,I can deal with it.If you REALLY need to be a puffer in a porn shoot,you can always go to   www.gog.com   where they have both for 6 bucks and are made towork on XP and Vista machines too.

Yes its buggy as hell,but with something as open ended as this one must expect bugs.And if it can't bemoded then that would be a pity:modding was what kept Oblivion and Morrowind selling all these years.

Peru? It reminds me more of my childhood in New Jersey,running around the abandooned factories in the Meadowlands,all that's missing are the reeds and swamps

[zndkw1n]

Do you even know what the "upper class section" means?

Sure, where rich people live.

Can you pinpoint Peru in the map?  (hint: Dont use intarweb)

Yes. I can also pinpoint where the doorknob is as I offer you my sincere wishes that you not allow it to smite your hind regions on the way out of Tastyspleen.

I've been to chicago, have you been to Peru?

No, I've never been to Peru. But sometimes I like to pretend that I'm there. What I often do is go into the bathroom, take a great big massive shit, and close my eyes and imagine that I'm there. The scent of human shit gives me many vivid mental images of what life must be like in Peru on a daily basis.

Funny, thats exactly what i do when i listen to the music you have posted on your site.  You must have a big shit fetish since theres so much of it on it,  and in then that site must pure mental masturbation for you.  Of the shit kind.   

[|iR|Focalor]

and in then that site must pure mental masturbation for you.  Of the shit kind.   

LOL is right. Do you even have a fucking clue what you were attempting to say there? There's that elite self-education rearing it's ugly head again, you peruvian schmuck.

[peewee_RotA]

So Fallout 3... I hear it got beat in sales by Fable 2. I figured the brand of Fallout was stronger.

[|iR|Focalor]

I say this game SUCKS!!!

Boring as hell! From what I've played so far, most of it is god damn talking. Seems more like a role-playing game than a first person shooter.

If you're wanting a good looking FPS game with lots of action and murderin' and maimin' and killin',... look elsewhere.

[peewee_RotA]

Seems more like a role-playing game than a first person shooter.

Soooo... yeah. Umm have you ever even played Fall out 1 or 2? Or anything else made by Bethesda Softworks?

You bought an RPG expecting a 3d shooter. You might as well say that the Notebook sucks because it didn't have enough gun fights or explosions.

[The Happy Friar]

Boring as hell! From what I've played so far, most of it is god damn talking. Seems more like a role-playing game than a first person shooter.
If you're wanting a good looking FPS game with lots of action and murderin' and maimin' and killin',... look elsewhere.

I've seem to have found a lot of explosions.  Very fun.  With a mini-nuke launcher and all.

[|iR|Focalor]

Seems more like a role-playing game than a first person shooter.

Soooo... yeah. Umm have you ever even played Fall out 1 or 2? Or anything else made by Bethesda Softworks?

You bought an RPG expecting a 3d shooter. You might as well say that the Notebook sucks because it didn't have enough gun fights or explosions.

Actually, no. Never played 1 or 2. I've seen the commercials for it all over TV, I had no clue it was a role-playing game. Good thing I didn't actually buy it, I would've been pissed at myself for wasting 50 bucks.

[peewee_RotA]

Actually, no. Never played 1 or 2. I've seen the commercials for it all over TV, I had no clue it was a role-playing game. Good thing I didn't actually buy it, I would've been pissed at myself for wasting 50 bucks.

You do have a point. They advertised the game as a 3d shooter. Even to the point that their developer videos described all the different guns and fighting styles as if it were a 3d shooter like blood or shadow warrior who's claim to fame has always been a fps with new and exciting weapons.

But once again it was made by Bethesda, uses the same engine as oblivion, and fallout 1 and 2 are hardcore turn based RPG's.

[Whirlingdervish]

heh. They got you focalor. :p

The first two were very slow paced turn based RPGs made by a company renowned for their RPG games. If you like that style of gaming (I love it when I'm faded ) they were the pinnacle of the genre and had a great deal of depth and dark humor unlike what you would see in any AAA title these days.

You should try them out even if you aren't 100% sure that you'd like the slower style of play because there's something there for every adult gamer who can stand to play games with graphics that aren't amazing.

(GOG has them on sale with optimized installers so that they should work on any windows comp for about 15 bucks. get em here: http://www.gog.com/en/page/fallout_promotion/)

what you'll recognize if you play the first 2 is that this game was a half assed attempt by a 3rd party developer to "recreate" that award winning series using a real time with pause (VATS) system to pander to the FPS crowd and try to throw a bone to the turn based folks at the same time. this sort of hybrid combat engine generally leads to dissapointment for both group of fans regardless of who thinks it's an appropriate change to an established style of gameplay.

the worst part for a guy like you who's never played the first 2, and had only seen ads for this new game, is that you expected a really cool shooter.

bethesda used the gamebryo engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamebryo  ) which is the outdated engine they used for Oblivion with very little time spent on optimization then and now.

It doesn't look anywhere near as realistic as the other 3PP and FPS shooters on the market right now, and it's a huge let down for someone expecting the nextgen super shiny shit that was advertised. The only thing it has going for it in this area is huge draw distance ala Assassins Creed, but even then it's not as easy on the hardware..

what strikes me as really sad is that when they tried unsuccessfully to throw a bone to the fans that wanted a turn based strategy title,  they managed to ruin the balance of the FPS style play for anyone expecting something more like a the real FPS game that it was shown to be in video demo and promo footage.

we're all left waiting for completely different mods to fix this game for us.
(at least they finally released the dev kit )


fuckin ludicrous isn't it?

[|iR|Focalor]

At first, it seemed kinda cool. The part where you pick your sex, and what you look like was kinda neat. The story seemed to start off pretty cool. But once I escaped from the vault, it got tremendously boring. It was nothing but talking talking talking and walking walking walking. Like I said, luckily I got it from a torrent and didn't actually pay for this pile of crap, I would be fucking irate. It wasn't until I found a page with a complete list of cheat codes that I printed out that I realized this game was FAR too in-depth for my tastes. It was 20+ pages of codes for all kinds of stupid little items. I don't mind a game with depth and realism and substance, but this was just a little TOO much depth, unnecessarily complicated.

[Sgt. Dick]

Cheater 

[peewee_RotA]

Dervish, although I've already defended the idea that Fallout1 and 2 fans would be disappointed with this game, I do have to disagree with your assessment. This game is simply Oblivion 40k. I don't know a single Morrowind or Oblivion fan that hasn't fallen absolutely in love with this game. I have to listen to music older than what I listen to (I listen to Franky, Dino, and Nat King Col) because the sound track of this game is so popular at the office.

As for the engine performance, replay Morrowind. Apart from Daggerfall, I don't remember a single time in history in which Bethesda released that was up to par with the current graphics standards of gaming. They simply need huge viewing distances for a real time RPG engine. All they ever use are terrain engines with clippable BSP models for houses. Every single game could be reproduced in the Mechwarrior 1 engine! So expecting stunning graphics from bethesda is as silly as expecting an FPS.

Now for trashing real time RPG's, I think you're talking out of place. There's always been a market for real time RPG's. I'm not going to go back further than Doom clones (although there are and endless list of such before hand) but don't forget that Elder Scrolls Arena was huge and Daggerfall won more awards than a 1 legged olympic runner. Beyond that you're forgetting about Amulets and Armor, Stone Keep, Strife, Eye of the beholder, and both of the Diablo's fall under the same category even if they are not first person. And what about the success of Morrowind and Oblivion that both got Game of the Year awards? And to further embarrass your point, Guild Wars, Everquest, Ultima 7, 8 and 9, and even WOW fall under the same category. It's an entire wildly successful genre with endless fans. To be completely honest, Fallout style RPG's lost miserably to the real time RPG genre and have all but disapeared from the face of the earth because of it.

[The Happy Friar]

I always found Computer RPG's sucked (except for the older ones, IE Buck Rogers series, ones ~that time) but this game's fun as blowing up gourds.  I only saw ads on gaming sites (and all those didn't stress it as either RPG or shooter), just read what people said about it.  I got what I was expecting: a shooter with lots of RPG elements.  Stalker but you can pick your stats.  I would of rather they made it so your stats are auto-configured based on the way you played vs you choosing.  IE if you try to pick a lot of pockets it automatically ups your stealth+pick pocketing, etc.  That's the way a modern computer RPG SHOULD be, not letting you choose.  Then it's not you playing the role, it's the role playing you.