what do you think? elppen walling?

[lollllll]

what do you guys think of this demo at railztdm? just recorded this demo about 5 min ago.
looks wally to me... frags 3/9/10 look particularly suspicious

http://www.mediafire.com/?c4xyvmrz4ad

[|iR|Focalor]

Maybe. If you notice when Symantek scores his 10th frag on him, he comes up the lift right behind him and he doesn't seem to hear him coming until he's fired a shot. He could say that he's able to judge his position so well by sound, but I could clearly hear him coming up the lift in the demo. Like I said, he didn't seem to notice at all until Symantek came down the ramp and fired a shot at him from the top of the stairs. While it does look like MAYBE there is possibility that he was wallhacking, I've seen a few people joining in a witch hunt against him claiming that he uses a bot, and yet I've never seen anyone provide a demo proving it.

[Whirlingdervish]

I just watched it using a wallhack, and I can tell you with 99% certainty that he's not legit just based on the first 2 minutes of it. (this doesn't surprise me, as I've played him and had the strong suspicion that he was bullshit based on his lack of movement skills and his apparent ability to know where a silent opponent is at all times)

You can see his crosshair tracking his opponent thru the walls of the mega room right off of the bat, and quite often throughout the rest of the demo you can see the same action where he's tracking the guy with his crosshair from 2 rooms away.

The shot he takes upon entering the mega room, while symantec is crouching behind the steps by the cg, is adjusted PRIOR to going through the door into the mega room, to aim right on the crouching opponent who isn't making noise.

then there's some bullshit strafing out from the sg room to aim right where symantec is heading from the arena, even tho he dodges both ways to throw elppen off, and changes up his speed a bit to make timing the shot difficult.


A really fishy part is when you watch the shots where he's on top of the lift and his crosshair is following the guy who is running to the lift from the arena floor even tho "elppen" doesn't see which way the guy is headed because he's too busy camping the top of the lift to look over the edge.

Another example would be the shot where he drops down from the gl to shoot symantec as the guy comes out of the sg room.
With a wallhack You can clearly spot symantec when he spawns, behind the wall above lower rl, and in the demo you can watch elppen track symantec as he runs to the lift through the sg room to be met with a shot in the face that was aimed seconds in advance to intercept him.


It doesn't look too bad if you watch it without walling, but the second you turn one on, you'll see how he's following symantec through the wall with his crosshair almost the entire time as opposed to adjusting his crosshair to where he heard his opponent, like a player who was using sound knowledege and who knew what they were doing.

What's really pitiful is that his aim is terrible considering how close his crosshair is to the guy, before turning the corner, on every single peek-shot.


Please, Ban this fucktard.

[Whirlingdervish]

BTW, does anyone know of a program I can use to make an .avi from screencapturing my q2?

If so, I can show you exactly what he's doing.

EDIT: got fraps downloaded and I'm figuring out how to use it.


I'll post a video of him tracking thru walls in a bit, after I get it uploaded to photobucket.

[lollllll]

agree with derv. this guy should be banned. off with his head 

this guys been hacking for quite some time and no one really called him out on it...until now
http://monsterkill.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4271

[elppen]

OFFFFF WITTTHH HIS HEEEAAAAADDDDDDDDDDD.   Im all for forcing  anti cheat on his subnet.

[lollllll]

lol he wants a slap on the wrist

full ban is in order here

[Whirlingdervish]

http://www.savefile.com/files/1694076

Here's one of him tracking the opponent thru 2 walls with his crosshair and never aiming at a spot where the guy might run off to, like at the ssg room window..

Instead he keeps it on the the exact spot symantic is going to peek out of, because he can see him thru the ssg room wall and he can tell that symantic (who is facing him) will be peeking instead of running.

Anyone else who didn't have a wallhack would have covered the window at least once in one of those passes in case symantic tried to get the fuck out of that spot to flank him.


more snippets to come, when they finish uploading..
They're a bit more damning as well.

[lollllll]

wd

not able to watch the avi. im wondering what codec is required

[|iR|Focalor]

wd

not able to watch the avi. im wondering what codec is required

Same here. Maybe it's that DIVX codec that my anti-virus got rid of. OH NOES, ALL MY OLD PR0Ns ARE UNWATCHABLE!!!

OFFFFF WITTTHH HIS HEEEAAAAADDDDDDDDDDD.   Im all for forcing  anti cheat on his subnet.

Why? 

[Whirlingdervish]

hrm.. it runs in my wmp and divx.
I made it with fraps, but I don't know what codec it used.

did you download it then run it? or try to stream?
I don't think it will stream directly to your player.

[|iR|Focalor]

Yeah, downloaded it. It opened Windows Media Player and said "acquiring codec", but then no sound and no video. 

Like I said, I bet it's some DIVX codec it needs. I'd sure like to find one, the one I had on my old machine got blown away when my spyware getter-ridder-of-er associated it as some type of malware. Maybe because the player that came bundled with it was some kind of 3rd party info collection thingy.

[Whirlingdervish]

figured it out.. Apparently fraps installs it's own codec when it installs the screencapture utility.

You'll need to install this:

http://dervish.tastyspleen.net/files/fraps.zip

I tested it out on a laptop that I'm setting up and it worked after installing fraps and restarting.

here's a couple of vids:

http://www.mediafire.com/?pwjc95xncm1

In this one, he knows exactly where symantic is hiding even tho the guy pulled a pretty quick sneaky move and should have had the drop on him.

If you watch elppen, he never checks any other spot in the room on the final jump out around the corner to shoot symantic, even tho the guy could have gone a couple of different ways from the last place where he would have been seen by a legit player.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zzijkwwmyan

This is another of the typical shots he's trying to pull in the demo. (he misses this one and runs away )
He does this like 5 times throughout, where he just stands there watching symantic move, thru the wall, and then squeezes off a shot right as his opponent passes the corner.

[|iR|Focalor]

LOL, no need anymore. Watched the demo yet again with a wallhack loaded like you did. I wasn't so sure before. I am now. YES!!! I am 100% convinced he is wallhacking!

Game over.

 

[|iR|Focalor]

Here's a few dead giveaways...



He is backing up the stairs and heading back to the mega room. Notice how his crosshair is NOT fixed on the opening right above him where his opponent could pop out at any moment and surprise him. Instead, his crosshair is looking at the wall directly above the stairs. See that little yellow spot on the wall to the lower left of the crosshair? That's Symantek.

Here's another one that's a dead giveaway, even though 90% of the shots made the whole game were dead giveaways. As he is running towards the door leading out to the railgun, his crosshair is fixed upon the floor and Symantek just happens to be at the bottom of those steps. Any cautious player would have their crosshair covering that doorway as they approached it, NOT the floor.