Passive behavior on Co-op

[ReCycled]

More people are visiting Co-op these days because the server crash issue has mostly resolved. I use R1Q2 now and I have never crashed since. It seems if at least one person is using it, the server is mostly stable when you go to a new level. However there's a lot of other weird things that happen. Sometimes monsters are moving in slo-mo. Or they're stuck running in one spot. My favorite is Passive Behavior. This is when there is no trigger to alert them you are there by just your presence. A direct shot is needed to awaken them. Its a bit funny actually. The demo is attached. Also there are still yahoos who connect, do the "give all", put on godemode and shoot up everything - players included. I wish there was some way to de-activate cheats. Then it would be classic Co-op.
Anyway here's the demo...

[AustinPowers]

Hrmm... disabling cheats could be fun...

[|iR|Focalor]

Hrmm... disabling cheats could be fun...

A nine iron across the kneecaps is smashing, baby! 

[Theo]

My favorite is Passive Behavior. This is when there is no trigger to alert them you are there by just your presence. A direct shot is needed to awaken them.

That occurs because the last player that played before you has triggered the cheat 'notarget'.
Yeah, it's a pity. Shame on those people who don't understand what Co-op is. I have played a lot of good Co-op and I continue to play with friends.

As AustinPowers said, disabling the cheats on the TastySpleen Co-op server would be great.

[m4$73r j14u]

Shot me! I did ...  NOTHING.

[ReCycled]

That occurs because the last player that played before you has triggered the cheat 'notarget'.

Well you know your cheat codes. I've  never heard of that one. Seems rather pointless for Id to put that in the game since it defeats the whole point of the game. I'll try it in MultiPlayer and see if my frags go up....
 

[Pr0c3550r]

That occurs because the last player that played before you has triggered the cheat 'notarget'.

Well you know your cheat codes. I've  never heard of that one. Seems rather pointless for Id to put that in the game since it defeats the whole point of the game. I'll try it in MultiPlayer and see if my frags go up....
 

No Idea about cheat codes.

However, I will join you in the coop anytime.

[ReCycled]

No Idea about cheat codes.

However, I will join you in the coop anytime.

Well I'll see ya there then. Panjoo said there were other SP maps that I didn't even know were Single Play maps. Hub is one. SPOGSP1 is another large one. I'm going to send something to Gator to see if there is any way of getting these on Co-op. Would give some variety.
 

[PANTONE 7717C]

(@ Rec; check your PM inbox plz, I've sent you some links )

[[BTF] Reflex]

That occurs because the last player that played before you has triggered the cheat 'notarget'.

Well you know your cheat codes. I've  never heard of that one. Seems rather pointless for Id to put that in the game since it defeats the whole point of the game.

notarget is good if you are going in to check out 'monster' placement.  See where everyone starts out,  how their walk paths go etc...

[peewee_RotA]

The words "cheat" and "debug" are pretty much synonymous. Cheats only exist for the sake of map making and programming. Real cheats, like "butcher" in hexen, don't really exist anymore. But still as with all cheats for every game they were put in place for the purpose of debugging and left in for fun. Here's the code to fix it:

g_cmds.c

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/*
==================
Cmd_God_f

Sets client to godmode

argv(0) god
==================
*/
void Cmd_God_f (edict_t *ent)
{
char *msg;

//*************
//peewee start
//*************
//remove cheats in coop also
// if (deathmatch->value && !sv_cheats->value)
if ((deathmatch->value || coop->value) && !sv_cheats->value)
{
gi.cprintf (ent, PRINT_HIGH, "You must run the server with '+set cheats 1' to enable this command.\n");
return;
}
//*************
//peewee end
//*************

ent->flags ^= FL_GODMODE;
if (!(ent->flags & FL_GODMODE) )
msg = "godmode OFF\n";
else
msg = "godmode ON\n";

gi.cprintf (ent, PRINT_HIGH, msg);
}

Do the same for all cheats. That way if you want to enable cheats then the server can "set cheats 1" and reload the map just like deathmatch.

[Theo]

WallFly caught at cheating... He has NOTARGET ON at the TastySpleen Coop server.

[ReCycled]

I've been meaning to post this, so this thread reminded me.

 The Co-op server has been crashing a LOT lately. For a while it was quite stable as long as you (or at least one person) connected using R1Q2. I never had a problem then. But in the last 2 weeks it crashs with regularity - always on the change to the next map. Doesn't matter what client you're using. It's pretty unpredictable too. Sometimes you make it through - sometimes you don't. Its a shame because there seems to be a small but loyal group that shows up a lot and will patiently wait while the server reboots and re-connect. But then you have to start from Base1 all over again. I've tried manually going to the next level using the gamemap command but even then it will crash.
Can this be looked into?
 

[Theo]

Glad to help you, Recycle Bin.

Yeah, I second that. Many people suggest "Should I host?" or "Will anybody host?" after a crash in the BASE unit. It's quite impossible to move on to the next unit, it always crashes. It makes it almost unusable.

[Pr0c3550r]

yes, can someone do something about this ?

Oh, Teo wants to admin the co-op server, thats an excellent choice too.

I was suggesting ReCyClEd as he knows the game and is an excellent host when I am there.