the life ruining effects of mental illness

[X'tyfe]

Focalor, i totally agree
i was also labeled as someone with ADD when i was a kid
and they put me on drugs, i didnt know what the heck it was about until i got junior high
where they put me into the "special" class, at which point i damn near started a riot

there convincing people that normal childhood behavior, (some of which could be dealt with if parents gave a shit) is a disorder. and people are sucked into it, and they have made so much fucking money its sad

they no want to bring that onto adults as well, but they cant get very far with that

but, you cant convince me saying that most mental illness is like that. not when i feel this way
dont criticize how i feel until you experience it for yourself

[jägermonsta]

ADD - Because you can't write a prescription for "lazy".

[Whirlingdervish]

..don't criticize normal people's feelings until you've had one yourself.

 

Here's a hint:
If you're gonna go around professing that you have an incurable disease, make sure it's not something like alcoholism or depression or the people with real problems like incurable STDs and Cancer might get pretty pissed with you for being an attention whore and stealing their thunder.

..and here's my 2 cents:

If it's really a problem, fix it.
Don't cry about how it's un-fixable and how everyone else caused you to have it, and hows it's not your fault at all and you're just the victim of circumstances. That's the bitch way out.

Take responsibility for your life, and the things that you do and how you act, and maybe you won't be so apathetic and prone to fits of depression.

You might have to actually make painful changes in your life, and be prepared to fail every so often, but these are trade offs that are obviously worth it in your case, if you feel that life is so unbearable and that everything is sooo terrible.

I won't say "I've been there" because I've been to worse places and I've teetered on the edge of losing my own sanity completely. All this, and I've still never been so depressed that I thought giving up was a viable option.

Fortunately, I never feel like giving up is a viable option. It does nothing for you, and no matter what your circumstances, it's a stupid idea and a waste of your life.


One day, if you're lucky you'll come to a realization something like the one I had when I was in my early teens. It went like this:

"Hey! maybe my life is fucked up and I'm unhappy, because I'm too picky and I want things I havent earned, like piece of mind and respect and time to sit on my ass."

 

[|iR|Focalor]

Focalor, i totally agree
i was also labeled as someone with ADD when i was a kid
and they put me on drugs, i didnt know what the heck it was about until i got junior high
where they put me into the "special" class, at which point i damn near started a riot

I assume by "special" class you're referring to what they call "self-contained" or maybe special education. Some people like to flip the kids in that class a bunch of shit thinking that ALL special education is for retarded kids. No, it's not. What they seem to do is keep all the kids with behavior problems in that one class to isolate them and prevent the rest of normal classes from being disrupted. Often times these kids are extremely smart, they just don't have the personal motivation to do the class assignments. I personally feel that isolating and segregating these kids into one class like that is despicable. Like I said, children are easily conditioned. When you stick all the disruptive trouble makers into one class, they tend to encourage one anothers misbehavior even further, which is completely counter-productive. But hey, at least they aren't infecting the rest of the herd with their notions of individuality.

but, you cant convince me saying that most mental illness is like that. not when i feel this way
dont criticize how i feel until you experience it for yourself

I wasn't attempting to criticize you. Just offering a different perspective. I have no problem with criticizing the psych profession in general though. They seem to prey upon the weak-minded and weak-willed, creating broad generalizations of symptoms that define a "disease" so that they can sell you a cure.

For example, here's MY commercial for MY drug I could sell and get rich.

"Are you a male? Do you have a penis? Are you sometimes burdened with feelings of horniness? Do you have a hightened urge for sexual activity? Ask you doctor about Masterbatol. Masterbatol: because you have other things to think about besides fucking all the time."

What I've done is made something completely normal out to be a "disease". From what I can tell, these drug companies push the science of psychology to do the same for profit.

The only advice I could lend on battling depression without drugs would be to do some introspection and honest self examination. The rose colored glasses of self deceit must be removed so that a person can clearly view themselves. Once you figure out why you are miserable within yourself, you can either remove the things self inflicted which cause the depression, or formulate ways to counteract external things from influencing you to feel the depression. As part of my own personal philosophies about things, the ego and the will have MUCH to do with it. When a person can build those things up constructively, I think they will get much more enjoyment out of life.   

Take responsibility for your life, and the things that you do and how you act, and maybe you won't be so apathetic and prone to fits of depression.

I agree, Dervish. Your philosophy on it seems quite similar to mine. 

[peewee_RotA]

I also have experience with people with depression. Everyone is different and suffers for a different reason. However in this specific case the thing that helped was finding someone willing to take care of her and then having children. There is nothing that changes a life like a child. In this case it was a positive thing.

Before anyone accuses me of saying: "go have a kid". The order of events was marriage, and then children. I'm just saying that it gives you something to work for and once it happenes it will be worth it. It's not like religion or goals. It's something real and tangible and I think it's the end result of someone deciding to get better and get on with their life.

[haunted]

I've had many problems in my life, more than most ppl i know that are my age. I've spontaneously got up and left 2 different cities because of these problems (drugs, girls, family, etc.). It's ok to get depressed over these things, but letting depression consume you as you are doing is just letting your problems define the person who you are. Re-define yourself by handling your problems differently. Get it through your head that doing good in school will make you happy. Stop smoking weed so much if you are. Be a man, have the courage to get the fuck up and leave if things aren't going your way. This isn't anything incredibly new to you either i'm sure. Just keep asking yourself: 'What am I waiting for to do all of this?'...........this is all IMO though.

[X'tyfe]

I've had many problems in my life, more than most ppl i know that are my age. I've spontaneously got up and left 2 different cities because of these problems (drugs, girls, family, etc.). It's ok to get depressed over these things, but letting depression consume you as you are doing is just letting your problems define the person who you are. Re-define yourself by handling your problems differently. Get it through your head that doing good in school will make you happy. Stop smoking weed so much if you are. Be a man, have the courage to get the fuck up and leave if things aren't going your way. This isn't anything incredibly new to you either i'm sure. Just keep asking yourself: 'What am I waiting for to do all of this?'...........this is all IMO though.

haunted, you can be a pretty cool guy if you try i probably should put that shitty weed away

i cant say that id go as far as you, leaving where i live... but i agree i need to drastically change how i live
i cant be sitting at a computer all day wishing i was doing something better, i need to be doing it

[[BTF]RottenRose]

I feel you honey. Helping yourself really is hard and trying to get help is really hard. I really hope you get back to school soon. I'm in interpersonal communication and we are going over how it messes with your mental and physical health. Get better soon. If you ever need someone to talk to I'm here for you. No matter if your on bad terms with others or not, I think of you as my friend.
 

Get to school soon!!! We can be far away college friends!!   

[Lemonzest]

Hey

i'd like to think we've become friends over the year or so i've known you (MSN and the odd DooM session) but wow this was really a shock reading this, dint expect any of this. maybe you know some of my history, i too suffer with mental health issues (Bipolar Affective Disorder + Schizoid Personality) and some physical problems (Fibromyalgia) so i too use the internet for as much lulz as i can get from it as you are well aware my friend and mostly killing imaginary monsters (Doom) and currently because of the fibromyalgia i'm going to the gym 4x a week for 2 hours a day to try and improve my general health.

one thing i will say tho, is try and get some kind of medication, believe me its worth it, before my bipolar was diagnosed my life was like a fucking roller coaster, from wrist slitting depressed to ultra super mega happy at the flip of a switch.

good luck Xtyfe, now i know why you said you had tons of time to play Doom

[X'tyfe]

I feel you honey. Helping yourself really is hard and trying to get help is really hard. I really hope you get back to school soon. I'm in interpersonal communication and we are going over how it messes with your mental and physical health. Get better soon. If you ever need someone to talk to I'm here for you and I really don't care what anyone else thinks about that.

thanks though i dont know why people would think badly of that

Get to school soon!!! We can be far away college friends!!   

* X'tyfe thinks dirty thoughts

Hey

i'd like to think we've become friends over the year or so i've known you (MSN and the odd DooM session) but wow this was really a shock reading this, dint expect any of this. maybe you know some of my history, i too suffer with mental health issues (Bipolar Affective Disorder + Schizoid Personality) and some physical problems (Fibromyalgia) so i too use the internet for as much lulz as i can get from it as you are well aware my friend and mostly killing imaginary monsters (Doom) and currently because of the fibromyalgia i'm going to the gym 4x a week for 2 hours a day to try and improve my general health.

im glad that im not alone, we gotta do what we can despite these things
gotta move forward, or you will come to a stand still

one thing i will say tho, is try and get some kind of medication, believe me its worth it, before my bipolar was diagnosed my life was like a fucking roller coaster, from wrist slitting depressed to ultra super mega happy at the flip of a switch.

this is my goal now, but im also thinking about joining a group to meet people
i have a feeling it will do much more than any meds or treatment could
iv been isolated all my life, i dont know what it feels like to be around people that want to be around you as well

my dad used to be like that with his bipoler, it was so obvious, especially when he would drink
hes all better now though, doesnt drink either... i only wish i could do the same

[[BTF]RottenRose]

Sorry worded that wrong, fixed!

I feel you honey. Helping yourself really is hard and trying to get help is really hard. I really hope you get back to school soon. I'm in interpersonal communication and we are going over how it messes with your mental and physical health. Get better soon. If you ever need someone to talk to I'm here for you and I really don't care what anyone else thinks about that.

thanks though i dont know why people would think badly of that

Get to school soon!!! We can be far away college friends!!   

* X'tyfe thinks dirty thoughts

Hey

i'd like to think we've become friends over the year or so i've known you (MSN and the odd DooM session) but wow this was really a shock reading this, dint expect any of this. maybe you know some of my history, i too suffer with mental health issues (Bipolar Affective Disorder + Schizoid Personality) and some physical problems (Fibromyalgia) so i too use the internet for as much lulz as i can get from it as you are well aware my friend and mostly killing imaginary monsters (Doom) and currently because of the fibromyalgia i'm going to the gym 4x a week for 2 hours a day to try and improve my general health.

im glad that im not alone, we gotta do what we can despite these things
gotta move forward, or you will come to a stand still

one thing i will say tho, is try and get some kind of medication, believe me its worth it, before my bipolar was diagnosed my life was like a fucking roller coaster, from wrist slitting depressed to ultra super mega happy at the flip of a switch.

this is my goal now, but im also thinking about joining a group to meet people
i have a feeling it will do much more than any meds or treatment could
iv been isolated all my life, i dont know what it feels like to be around people that want to be around you as well

my dad used to be like that with his bipoler, it was so obvious, especially when he would drink
hes all better now though, doesnt drink either... i only wish i could do the same

[FYATroll]

BUMP

Wtf is the point in telling people this if ur just gonna keep acting like an idiot??Not only do you have the above mentioned problems.....you're just straight up unintelligent

[reaper]

life's a bitch and then you die, that's why we get high, cuz ya never know when you're gonna go

i don't know why i'm told to smoke cess, I guess it's the time when i'm not depressed, but i'm still depressed, so i ask what's it worth, ready to give up on the whole earth

some words of wisdom from the Wu Tang


 

[weezuschrist]

you might understand this if you ever reach level 99 in the ways of harnessing insanity into an awesome RPG like experience.

well, towards the end you realize... ***SPOILER ALERT****

nothing matters...

its all just bullshit...

then you laugh and become god and go about your trivial business with a new zeal.

this is the ONLY solution to ANYTHING.

a true level 99 wizard is faceless and cannot be poisoned or killed because he has no identity or ego to lose.

i wont be checking for a reply, i only come here occasionally and pick a topic for something to do..

to converse with me, check the myspace.

peace

[FYATroll]

But i never reached lvl 99 in Diablo 2.........does it matter?