wallhacking busted

[PANTONE 7717C]

yes bzZz... quad is the shit and he is the fattest fly... bZzzt.
The "there it was" in the demo; hehe that was me he was shooting at (male/samurai skin). I knew he was there because I saw his railtrail but I was battling behind that corner so he could have heard that. He's just a tough ffa opponent and I (sometimes, if quad is off) enjoy the competition from fanatic players like him and when I do win it's usually a close game that I had to work hard for. (evidence: hurray1, hurray2, hurray3, etc. But it doesn't happen that often ya know:P)

I kind of suspect crouching behind a spawn with an ssg, blasting motionless players on a crowded server, is a little cheesier than what the game designers originally had in mind.  But I could be wrong.

Sitting behind a spawn is silly but shooting motionless players is alright with me and I frag 'em without blinking if they're obviously away from keyboard:P. I mean a 'motionless' player is probably taking a leak or alt-tabbing to check his msn or something...  It's the effective loitering with rail in key areas of the maps, with clear sight on 2 or 3 spawns, that used to annoy the crap out of me. Not anymore though, I guess I've learned to deal with it and just try to stay cool.

[console]

shooting motionless players

Ack, I should have been more clear.  I was referring specifically to this motionless aspect of the respawn code in the context of spawn camping only:

    // hold in place briefly
    self->client->ps.pmove.pm_flags = PMF_TIME_TELEPORT;
    self->client->ps.pmove.pm_time = 14;


Regards,

[The Happy Friar]

imho screw ethics... if i'm completly slaughtering someone it isn't fun.  I play for the challenge.   If that means I purposely mess up a pattern or not get a gun then so be it.

why would you even want to play if you always win & there's no challenge?  I could play checkers against myself for THAT kind of entertainment!

[X'tyfe]

imho screw ethics... if i'm completly slaughtering someone it isn't fun.  I play for the challenge.   If that means I purposely mess up a pattern or not get a gun then so be it.

why would you even want to play if you always win & there's no challenge?  I could play checkers against myself for THAT kind of entertainment!

you would be surprised, people goto great lengths to do this
increases there ego

[peewee_RotA]

imho screw ethics... if i'm completly slaughtering someone it isn't fun.

[jägermonsta]

meh ely... meh...

[X'tyfe]

imho screw ethics... if i'm completly slaughtering someone it isn't fun.  I play for the challenge.   If that means I purposely mess up a pattern or not get a gun then so be it.

This is my point. When it comes down to mouse polling rates and adjusting FPS to give you a distinct advantage, that just takes the fun out of it. People who do everything they can to win are not usually fun compitition. This is not chess or Risk. Extreme compition is only there when you put it there. You'll notice that with a large group of non competative players, playing fair comes naturally and will be consistant for hours. Even competative players with high pings will instinctively become more curtious to other players. It takes a specific and determined will to turn a game competative. It's also a very new concept. Even when quake 1 first came out everyone was instinctively curtious. Now standing in corners and even the abbreviation "AFK" is a very new concept. Item shopping, and quad timing was little to non-existant, although camping was easier at the time especially since ID invented the Rocket Jump to help support campers.

Throughout the years I've just observed curtious players to be the norm and competative players to be the exception. And it gets tiring when games are given to the exception at the cost of the norm.

and this my friends is how gaming as a whole has turned to shit over the last few years

[[BTF]Defiant!]

To me, the best games have fun but respectful talk and competitive play.  I try my best and don't cry foul when beaten. 

When a player camps on q2dm1 in the water, which I don't do, it can ruin other players fun.  But, I don't know how one can claim anything other than that player exploiting the map design and maybe not having "style".

Am I wrong?

[quadz]

Even when quake 1 first came out everyone was instinctively curtious. Now standing in corners and even the abbreviation "AFK" is a very new concept. Item shopping, and quad timing was little to non-existant,

Haha, I had the opportunity to stand behind Thresh at the Q1 tournament where he won the Ferrari.  Those images are still burned in my mind as some of the most competetive playing I've ever seen.

although camping was easier at the time especially since ID invented the Rocket Jump to help support campers.

Do you have a reference on this idea of rocket jumping being created for supporting campers? 


Regards,

[Daemia]

imo elysium doesnt hack, he just owns you all and i guess some people have a hard time admitting that.

I was playing in dm and this guy starts saying "fuck you elysium you cheater"
after I said  "he doesnt cheat imo"
the guys like "you've got to be kidding me! how is it possible to kill me with 3 shots of the shotgun?!? "   
I replied "close range"
The guy says "OH BULL SHIT"   lol
I replied  "because if the SSG can kill with one shot and it is twice as strong as the sg then realistically the sg should only take 2 shots close range right?"   

Now ely being the stand up polite guy he is never replies to such non sense and always says GG or GGS before DC'ing.  And I respect him for that.

my .2

[jägermonsta]

imo elysium doesnt hack, he just owns you all and i guess some people have a hard time admitting that.

I was playing in dm and this guy starts saying "fuck you elysium you cheater"
after I said  "he doesnt cheat imo"
the guys like "you've got to be kidding me! how is it possible to kill me with 3 shots of the shotgun?!? "   
I replied "close range"
The guy says "OH BULL SHIT"   lol
I replied  "because if the SSG can kill with one shot and it is twice as strong as the sg then realistically the sg should only take 2 shots close range right?"   

Now ely being the stand up polite guy he is never replies to such non sense and always says GG or GGS before DC'ing.  And I respect him for that.

my .2

people say the same thing to me, I'm a wicked cheater!... ely owns you? aka owns vanilla? woah! actually when I see him on there that's pretty much the only time vanilla is any fun. I've won my fair share of ffa maps when him on the server. why I say... meh...

[peewee_RotA]

To me, the best games have fun but respectful talk and competitive play.

[Daemia]

this was on the dm server. thats where i play most of the time 

[peewee_RotA]

this was on the dm server. thats where i play most of the time

[Daemia]

   i was replying to jagermonsta     next time ill quote who im replying to