Author Topic: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)  (Read 7786 times)

Offline [BTF]Defiant!

  • Moderator
  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1502
    • View Profile
    • Quake 2 LAN party July-August 2007
  • Rated:
Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« on: June 27, 2005, 04:39:39 PM »
This tourney is being run great.  Assuming we keep the momentum with a new tourney next month, can we help matchup the players better?

Double elimintation will help.

Seeding will also help.  Perhaps
  • Seed based upon skill brackets: novice, sport, pro
  • Seed based upon tourney 1 results
  • Seed based upon people's voted position (where big egos mean harder compeition)
  • Seed based upon tastyspleen server logs
  • Seed randomly

This goes for 1v1 or tdm.  Especially tdm where a pop-up team vs a real tdm team will be an enormously boring blowout (ie 100 to -2).  A waste of 8 players' time.  Plus the attitudes can be a problem.

ideas?
Def
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
Next Event: http://www.quakecon.org/  Fall 2014
You missed the Quake 2 LAN party at http://athenslanparty.pbwiki.com/

Offline banes

  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1067
  • http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/t-wetseal.asp
    • View Profile
    • im a dork...
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2005, 05:01:35 PM »
console, i was wondering if you had any problem with starting the 2v2 tournament already, i dont see why we cant run two tourneys at the same time, we have two servers, and besides it would take a few weeks just arranging teams and sign ups, can we start working on this? i can help with the bureacratic bs (posting threads, match, tourney info, all that hoo haw, especially since you know i like to write)

also i was wondering if you would mind letting us run our own tourneys, on the tasty server, say someone gets a random idea for a tourney (say an all cg tourney) couldnt they just set off on their own and get started running it? we could have like a calender for tourneys
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
Is it sweet and pure and true?

Pictures and things that I've done before
Circling around me, out here on the floor I'm dreaming this and I'm dreaming that Regretting nothing, think about that

Offline {TNP}Dukie

  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1570
    • View Profile
    • http://dukieskinz.homestead.com/dukiesfront.html
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2005, 05:59:36 PM »
We will not be running any 2v2 tournaments here until I win a 1v1 tournament!

haha  we will never run a 2v2 then :D

seriously though, I like the prospect of a 1v1 double elimination.
I need to be slapped down hard twice before I know I am beaten!  :)
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
"To see me, you must download my skin!"
"To see me, you must download my skin!"

[img]http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/language/

Offline 10zx

  • Opulent Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2225
  • I pimp this hoe..
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2005, 06:18:07 PM »
2v2 and 1v1 double elimination.. I like those..

4v4 sounds nice.. but too bleak.. can't be sure people would show..
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline {TNP}Dukie

  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1570
    • View Profile
    • http://dukieskinz.homestead.com/dukiesfront.html
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2005, 07:10:12 PM »
judging by some of the match ups in this tournement it would take a miracle to get 2v2 off the ground :(
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
"To see me, you must download my skin!"
"To see me, you must download my skin!"

[img]http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/language/

seanikai

  • Guest
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2005, 07:33:00 PM »
Quote from: {TNP}Dukie on June 27, 2005, 07:10:12 PM
Quote from: {TNP}Dukie on June 27, 2005, 07:10:12 PM
judging by some of the match ups in this tournement it would take a miracle to get 2v2 off the ground :(

haha sure would :P

1v1 double elim next time would be nice, with a few new maps of course, I think this tourney really couldve used a map like chastity belt duel or match1 :D
« Last Edit: June 27, 2005, 07:35:37 PM by seanz0r »
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline daelmun

  • Swanky Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 840
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2005, 07:36:11 PM »
Well, aim for the sky and hit the roof or whatever, it's worth a shot. 4v4 is too much to handle at once, and would be hard getting enough teams to sign up. And even if they would, i doubt there is much reason as the teamplay in most cases would be very chaotic and random. In that case my idea about a FFA tourney would be better.

However 2v2 is really a nice way of playing, that way you learn how team up 2v1 in order to kill an opponent. It's a good introduction to the world of teamplay. My way into the realm of tdm was actually through 1v1, then I was forced to play 2v2 but I never enjoyed it nearly as much as 1v1, untill I started to understand what it was all about. Then gradually I got better, learning to hold position and drop weapons and use teambinds properly. I'm a lot better 1v1 than in teams still, but at least I find it fun playing teams. And in 2v2 you get to use the things you learn in 1v1's. Easier to focus on 2 opponents than 4, and that way you can work on locking down maps.

Anyway, I'm all for a 2v2 tournament. It would be nice.

But 1v1 double elim is also nice, maybe with some new maps to even out the playingfield. But not too many though, people can only learn so many maps at the time and watching duels where neither of the player know the map is not really that intresting from a spectators point of view. I'm just rambling anyway :P
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
<spiderpwnt> sax changed isp's
<spiderpwnt> and they deleted hsi old webspace
<|D|daelmun> :D!
<|D|daelmun> it's ok <|D|daelmun> i still got the one part of the site that is worth having <spid

Offline Laurelin

  • Moderator
  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1194
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2005, 09:26:02 PM »
Hiya,

I was thinking about posting a poll on 'Next Tourney' for a week. And open Signups for the two following weeks (Which would be the Semis & Final week in this 1st Edition). So once this tourney is over - the other would start.

Some people will surely be added to the 'Executive committee' as some people already left the scene (or will do).

Regards,
Laurelin
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

seanikai

  • Guest
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2005, 09:30:04 PM »
if you guys are needing refs for the next one I wouldnt mind helping out
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline Laurelin

  • Moderator
  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1194
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2005, 09:38:42 PM »
Here is the Poll for Tourney 2nd Edition:

http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=590.0


---

Thx Sean, you will be highly considered!  ;D
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

seanikai

  • Guest
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2005, 09:39:45 PM »
Thx Sean, you will be highly considered!
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline Punk_FAS

  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1743
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2005, 09:49:24 PM »
Woohoo, FFA tourney, I'm there! =)  Seriously, I love FFA =P  Not sure how that'd work though.  Actually I woulda done the 1v1 tourney too, but I'm a perpetual procrastinator, so I waited too long, and the match-ups were assigned before I realized things were getting to that point.
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline banes

  • Carpal Tunnel Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1067
  • http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/t-wetseal.asp
    • View Profile
    • im a dork...
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2005, 10:53:05 PM »
Some people will surely be added to the 'Executive committee' as some people already left the scene (or will do).

i wish to be added to this community

reasons for barring me from it will be silly:

"no shit talkers on the commitee" - what does that have to do with running an effective tournament? my shit talking has no effect on tourney standings, when has my shit talking chacal had an effect on laurelin letting him win? no decision will ever be overturned for it, my shit talking is excess and has no real consequence, console knows how passionate and dedicated i was in this first tournament practically trying to go over laurelins head to hold a better tourney

"you have too many rivalries which will cloud your judgement" - i will only judge based on the most sensible solution towards the GOOD of the tournament, not towards the bad or good of any one participant, who if i did have a bad opinion of, it would be someone pathetic and would really not be worth ruining a tournament over,

"youre a homo-gay and you called me a newb, i hate you!" - well your mother aint shit bitch, eat my dick

"what can boy you do shit is HAHAHAHHAHA" - you seriously need to get out of the pueblito and learn some english you twit


what else is there? i am well liked by the community (yes believe it or not) and i am not a dumb ass, i will make decisions based on the good of the tournament, and not just what the rules say word for word which may be inadequate for every situation, vote banes for tourney council 05! abortions for some and miniature patriotic flags for others!
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
Is it sweet and pure and true?

Pictures and things that I've done before
Circling around me, out here on the floor I'm dreaming this and I'm dreaming that Regretting nothing, think about that

Offline 10zx

  • Opulent Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2225
  • I pimp this hoe..
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2005, 04:42:08 AM »
Hiya,

I was thinking about posting a poll on 'Next Tourney' for a week. And open Signups for the two following weeks (Which would be the Semis & Final week in this 1st Edition). So once this tourney is over - the other would start.

Some people will surely be added to the 'Executive committee' as some people already left the scene (or will do).

Regards,
Laurelin
i'd like to play a role.. I think I have for the most part in this one
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline 10zx

  • Opulent Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2225
  • I pimp this hoe..
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: Next Tourney (4v4, 1v1, ..)
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2005, 04:44:16 AM »
If we were to do a 4v4.. I suggest we did sort of a random team draw..

so there won't be powerhouse teams vs newb teams..

then we'd make lil clan names for the tourney and the random team where's that tag in the tourney..

it'd be mixed up and such.. could prove to be fun..
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

 

El Box de Shoutamente

Last 10 Shouts:

 

Costigan_Q2

Today at 07:35:35 AM
Members
Total Members: 2921
Latest: provider

Date Registered : March 20, 2024

*laughs in slow clapping*
 

RyU

September 03, 2024, 05:15:49 PM
And wow Derrick is still playing lol
 

RyU

September 03, 2024, 05:15:15 PM
Just know yesterday is gone and soon tomorrow will be gone too  :)
 

Lejionator

August 08, 2024, 07:28:01 PM
It's tiem to QuakeCon!!!  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThQd_UJaTys
 

ImperiusDamian

July 26, 2024, 09:34:53 PM
In nomine Quake II et Id Software et Spiritus John Carmack, Amen.
 

QuakeDuke

July 26, 2024, 05:10:30 PM
Hey, shout, summertime blues
Jump up and down in you blue suede shoes
Hey, did you rock and roll? Rock on!!  ...QD
 

Yotematoi

July 24, 2024, 01:31:20 PM
Ayer me mato 5 veces para robarme en la vida real hará lo mismo? [img]<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0wXU2VgS7atesBcSoMz5BWMJCJajeZFVT6GzSU6TtpJGddN9kLTvWNgcZaskkbKFQl&amp;show_text=true&amp;width=500
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0wXU2VgS7atesBcSoMz5BWMJCJajeZFVT6GzSU6TtpJGddN9kLTvWNgcZaskkbKFQl&show_text=true&width=500" width="500"
 

Yotematoi

July 24, 2024, 01:25:59 PM
hi ya está la basura de Martin, se cambió el nombre es un ladron estupido, asi llegó a 10000[img]<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid03hZrkDUBJPZKCuFgy5hRUy831ekKJYVRzC7ajXaKQbJ6xcPgKftLukUDfovFyEq3l&amp;show_text
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid03hZrkDUBJPZKCuFgy5hRUy831ekKJYVRzC7ajXaKQbJ6xcPgKftLukUDfovFyEq3l&show_text
 

Yotematoi

July 24, 2024, 01:25:59 PM
hi ya está la basura de Martin, se cambió el nombre es un ladron estupido, asi llegó a 10000[img]<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid03hZrkDUBJPZKCuFgy5hRUy831ekKJYVRzC7ajXaKQbJ6xcPgKftLukUDfovFyEq3l&amp;show_text
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid03hZrkDUBJPZKCuFgy5hRUy831ekKJYVRzC7ajXaKQbJ6xcPgKftLukUDfovFyEq3l&show_text

Show 50 latest
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
September 21, 2024, 10:53:11 AM

Login with username, password and session length