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new holywater version
« on: December 26, 2006, 08:36:31 PM »
i recently was looking for updated anticheats and the new holywater seems promising. i met this guy named cash on the server and he was kicking my ass, he the most amazing bulshit shots i seen and  i could barely touch him. and of course you know me i thought he was cheating. after the accusation,he was a compromising enough guy and he wanted to prove to me he didnt cheat. so i had discovered the updated holywater and emailed it to him. cash then proceded to first say it didnt work and had said it gave him bad pic or something, i thought him to be bullshitting so he tried it again and it worked. after that  the battle was a full turnaround,suddenly with him actually unable to kill me with the rail gun in a rail battle.  i applaud him for "trying" to prove he wasnt cheating . unfortunately for him it didnt work the way he planned  and it backfired. so i feel like the whole pointof this thread is that if you just cooperate when your accused then you can settle things, if not then like most other players i asked and refused to download anticheats aren't as good as they claim and should stop making bullshit excuses like killer-t . to this day he still refuses to download holywater and play me. so i ask the admin if he can host the holywater file on his forum somewhere so it can be easily reached or to spread the word about it.

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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2006, 09:13:37 PM »
Please use one of these anticheat clients instead: http://antiche.at
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2006, 01:53:25 AM »
holywater .15 was hacked the day it came out by vapid and zeb0r, and the versions before those didnt stop anyone from cheating at all
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2006, 10:36:47 AM »
lemme correct myself. i'm using an updated version of 15 and it worked yesterday because this guy could'nt hit his rails for squat. just before he used holywater he was hiting rails almost non-stop.  i know there is a lot of cheating going on , especially on the euro servers. all i'm trying to do is make it fair and to allow all the players who claim their legit and/or wrongfully accused to download it and prove what you got.  i've gathered some demos if anyone would like to see them on a few players on the servers. an experienced player can spot the aimbot, but these days the bots have gotten very hard to spot because they have improvedover the basic zbot and ratbots. i dont even know what versions of bots they have out now to beat the r1q2 but i have a demo of someone testing their bot and they even admitted to it even whene they had r1q2 installed. they are trying to circumvent every anticheat available i say keep trying as many anticheats as there are and tell the accused to use them all one at a time and see if his check are i ngood standing if not then they refuse and they cant back up their skills .
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2006, 10:52:40 AM »
do you listen at all?

use anticheat. r1q2 isn't really cheat protection, it's a alternative quake2 client for people to use.

read this: http://antiche.at/

that is anticheat, holywater won't compare to anticheat when it comes to bot protection.


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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2006, 11:01:02 AM »
it's not a 'new version', all it is, is nocheat 2.40 with a different name (very slight differences). evilpope then dropped HW and made q2advance, which wasn't anything special either.
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 11:35:40 AM »
i dont wnat to post the number version of the holywater so some hacker will look for it i'dlike to keep the information to a minimum
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2006, 11:44:49 AM »
i'd also like for some to use the non-popular clients such as cheat raper which my contact awc had foudn while searching for anticheats. and as for jagermonsta asking if i had been listening.. have YOu been listening.. i know r1q2 isn't an anticheat but the other anticheat has to be downloaded along with the r1q2 or its useless. its like buying a gun without ammo. so get your facts straight
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2006, 11:47:02 AM »
get antiche.at and one of the compatible clients, holywater is a piece of shit, every version of it has been hacked since day one. your not trying to clean up the community, you cant be because ur trying to peddle out of date hacked anti cheats. Thats like me saying, everyone get nocheat 2.34 or ur a fucking hacker......

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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2006, 11:54:46 AM »
its people like randy who either 1)cheat and hide it, and try to discourage the participation of anyone remotely interested 2) dont careabout the community and doesnt look up appropriate information, 3) just like to talk nonsense on a forum just for the sake of argument
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 12:06:42 PM »
If you want to help out, support AntiCheat not some old 6 yr old 'anti-cheats' that are out dated and hacked by now. Get your facts straight, the programs you're suggesting suck balls. Just use AntiCheat, christ.
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 12:59:19 PM »
well obviously you have'nt read a word i have wrote so lemme say it again so you can understand it. i want people to use all the porgrams they can and every update available for these programs because euros do update thdese old programs fool. so stop posting if you hve nothing to say advocating the anticheat movement because you obviously dont care about it so save yourself some time and quit posting.
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 01:08:46 PM »
lol wow. I don't care about it? I am only trying to help you to stop wasting your time. I care enough to suggest the only anti cheat currently out right now that really matters but you continue to ignore it. I understand what your saying and have given my opinion on your suggestions already. The only necessary secure anti cheat addin you need for quake2 is anticheat. So why not just support that instead of pointing people in the wrong direction. fool.
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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2006, 01:33:20 PM »
well obviously you have'nt read a word i have wrote so lemme say it again so you can understand it. i want people to use all the porgrams they can and every update available for these programs because euros do update thdese old programs fool. so stop posting if you hve nothing to say advocating the anticheat movement because you obviously dont care about it so save yourself some time and quit posting.

The only anticheat I'm aware of that's actually worth a damn right now for Q2 is anticheat.dll.

If you want to know which players on the server have valid anticheat, type "aclist" in your console.


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Re: new holywater version
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2006, 01:42:32 PM »
yea so basically what your saying if the has been hacked before it useless even with the updates. and if thats true then the antiche. at.dll which was hacked before is also useless. so whats your point?, just dicard all programs that have been hacked before and ignore any updates they provide? because i have news for you every program thats been out and will be out is and was hacked before to circumvent cheat protection. so get real and quit the bullshit about the programs are old because it doesnt really matter how old the program is the purpose of thwarting anticheats is to update the software to circumvent the cheats themselves so get a clue. antiche.dll was hacked and circumvented but thats why they keep updating their file.  so with my point proven using all these programs in unison will eventually stop or slow hackers in their tracks. nuff said
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