Ye Religion Thread

[reaper]

what do we know about god?

[metaL]

Actually, what you stated was not even close to a fact.  It seems that you are still having trouble with your thought process, and that you should re-read, like i said (since you have the time to dig up posts from 3 months ago in attempts to say that i have contradicted myself, lol), some of the previous posts.  As for what you currently call a contradiction:

but im sorry, i do not feel that i am the result of "millions of years of adaptations".

This was cleared up by my very next post, which said if by millions of years he meant 2 than i agree, and i simply do not think that we evolved from the earliest of monkeys.  I do believe in many forms of evolution (more than one exist, just so you know.. evolution through adaptation, natural selection, survival of the fittest, etc.)  Like i said, these desperate attempts are pretty humurous. nice try though 

EDIT: I am also not the one pointing out everyone's contradictions.  Hell, someone even made a website to highlight reaper's.  Sometimes I am hard on reaper because we are both theists, and his proposals provide ample fuel for the athiests on this thread.

[Whirlingdervish]

would it be easier for you to accept if monkies were smarter than we are? Or what if they didn't throw poo?
What if I told you that monkies evolved from humans? would it still seem so ludicrous to you?

as of right now, your statement stinks of a "humans are the center of the universe, because I am one" argument.

Please elaborate on your views if I'm incorrect here.
Help us understand.

[DaHanG]

what do we know about god?  so what is the perfect world?  the latter doesn't seem to be a trivial question.

If it

[reaper]

You're only proving my point (in a pathetic way). You said the fact that this world is "perfect" is not trivial. You then later state that it basically is, when I was only correcting you in the first place..

i can't think the world is perfect, because i don't think such a belief is trivial?

[DaHanG]

so what is the perfect world?  the latter doesn't seem to be a trivial question.

Here you say the question of the perfect world is not trivial. However, there are people on this forum who clearly disagree with you, and it is therefore trivial.

[reaper]

so what is the perfect world?  the latter doesn't seem to be a trivial question.

Here you say the question of the perfect world is not trivial. However, there are people on this forum who clearly disagree with you, and it is therefore trivial.

ok, well let me be clear, I used trivial to mean self-evident (not simple).  so the question is simple and self-evident, because people on the forum disagree that the question is not simple and self-evident.

[DaHanG]

Well for some reason I thought you meant that it WAS a self-evident matter (because of the way you speak about this perfect world), but I missed the "n't" in "doesn't" it seems. . 

[Arm0r]

http://www.yikers.com/video_scientist_claims_the_earth_is_expanding.html


VERY..VERY...Interesting link, really got me wondering...plz post thoughts 

[DaHanG]

I watched the first two minutes, and I highly doubt that the continental drift is false. This seems to be alternative theory, but the one we already have makes perfect sense and is based on a ton of evidence. Even if the earth is changing in size, I don't think that alone accounts for the positioning of our oceanic and continental plates (and the rate at which they move).

[reaper]

I watched the first two minutes, and I highly doubt that the continental drift is false.

leviticus 13:18
and god created the continental drift

no doubt : )

gonna edit this...
if leviticus 13:18 is shown to be wrong, we are simply interpreting leviticus 13:18  wrong! f* the bible damit : )

[DaHanG]

I know you're just joking, but modern geologists aren't interpreting from scripture (thankfully).

:>

[reaper]

if there's no god, shouldn't there be much more evil than what's seen on earth?

[DaHanG]

Why should there be more evil?

Scientifically, god invokes more problems than it solves. Perhaps Hawking thinks this.

[quadz]

if there's no god, shouldn't there be much more evil than what's seen on earth?

 

Have you even paid attention to human history?

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP2.HTM http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB2.1A.GIF http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB2.1B.GIF http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM The mass murder of their own citizens or those under their protection or control by emperors, kings, sultans, khans, presidents, governors, generals, and other such rulers is very much part of our history. In ancient times captured cities or towns would be pillaged and their inhabitants massacred; whole lands would be turned into regions of ruins and skeletons. Such genocide, massacre, and human slaughter; pillage, rape, and torture have been more common than war and revolution.

"Good" seems to be more the exception than the rule.

What was your question, again?