goodbye granny posts

[[BTF]adam]

Granny's an idiot.
However this wasnt justified and im not in agreement with it so dont think I am when I say granny is an idiot. because he is, and it was not. 

mi opiniona.

[paradisel0st]

  The fact that you think my point was DaHanG is "Favored" goes to show you misinterupted some key points of my post. That is the exact oppisote of what I was saying... lol.

while I'm not all that "worked-up" about this, (I post things that sound "angry" even when I'm not angry...)
you are correct on this point:
I incorrectly assumed that you were being sarcastic, about a few things in the last
paragraph there and thus I misinterpreted your meaning.
It sure looked like sarcasm, but without your tone of voice I had little to go on.
I apologize for that comment.

It's no problem at all man. Anything on the internet can easily be misunderstood.

Quadz, you are saying betazx predicited I would use my moderator abilities to delete [TC]Granny's posts? I find that highly unlikely. You cannot really compare my actions to anything BETAZX has ever done. 95% of the people in this community knows little if any information about him (including yourself) and most of the things you have had explained to you are infact a very small amount of his abuse. Me deleting someones forum posts is abuse of power no doubt, but it isnt even anywhere close to the scope of the things bzx did when he had power. It's really a shame that the old assassins forum is down and so is q2players.org because I would love to enlighten all of you. As for whoever compared me to kobra (dont care enough to check) my actions really aren't similar to his at all. What I meant was it's not like I thought I could do this and get away with it, I knew I would lose moderator status without a doubt (didn't predict being banned from servers, but it doesn't matter regardless). I never got moderator status from the beginning with the sole purpose of deleting [TC]Granny's posts. For those of you who actually noticed I renamed every thread in the demo section and also took the time to move quite a bit of threads out of this section to where they belong. Kobra apparently set out with a goal to become friends with everyone over months and then get power and go nuts on everyone. Or at least that's what I've gathered from the very little I know about him. He was doing all of this when I was no longer playing quake 2. If you guys want to believe I am a horrible person, because I deleted posts from someone who completely destroyed the demo section, be my guest. I do agree that everyone deserves to have their opinion voiced (to an extent of course). I was simply waiting for [TC]Granny's reaction to his posts\threads being gone. Which I imagine would have been pretty entertaining. Unfortunately I have yet to see that. If any of you actually took a look at the majority of his posts it was generally spam nonsense to bump his threads or just something like "rofl you f***** nub, i f****** own you, lol i am the q2 king  " Oh and btw this wasn't exactly a long process. All of his posts other than 3 have been deleted since yesterday. I just went to his profile, looked at his last posts and quickly scanned through and deleted anyone with the delete button (meaning they were in my section with moderator abilities). It's not like I put a huge amount of time into this. No offense to ADAM, but I did more for the demo section (as far as fixing it up in the beginning) in one day then ADAM has this entire time he's had moderator abilities.

Regards,

DAMNATION ZERO

 

[haunted]

titties that was the most worthless thing I've ever heard in my life. Lost did it because he's obviously over tastyspleen and some of the things that are happening in q2 (this caused him to quit q2 in the first place as he said earlier) and that's why he behaved why he did. No one cares about granny's nade clownage, he's an idiot that thinks he's something special when he is in no way good at all. Granny's bullshit and betazx getting admin were parts of what lost is over in this community. Betazx was given admin when he had been playing on tastyspleen servers for a few days and quadz knew nothing about him. The fact is that betazx had banned people for fun, flooded people during matches, and crashed peoples' quake2.exe in the past at Assasins gxmod (A very popular server). In order to depict his distaste for these situations, lost decided to abuse his admin (to make a point, because had done the same thing in the past except 1,000x worse) and delete all of granny's bullshit at the same time. This was not premeditated most likely, it's just a representation of how some people are over the shit, that's all. It's obviously not a good thing for you quadz because you had to spend an afternoon cleaning it up, which is very nice of you. I myself couldn't be so kind to granny being that he's a dick that does nothing but hurt the demos section. Besides all that, lost did it because him and others find it funny. I just wanted to explain that to you titties because you are the biggest fucking retard on the planet. Every post of yours that I read I leave my computer a dumber person, just by coming in contact with your obvious stupidity.

[[BTF]adam]

you are correct para, you did do more than me, because whatever the fuck id do id always get an earful from either your guys side or grannys side, and I grew sick of it, and stopped doing anything except what REALLY needed doing.

[Bleach]

i say ban em all and let omega sort em out

[paradisel0st]

To be fair Adam I think I only complained about the way plastik was taking care of things. I recall voicing my opinion to you, but not blaming what was going on at the time on you. Since it was basically all plastik.

[console]

Quadz, you are saying betazx predicited I would use my moderator abilities to delete [TC]Granny's posts? I find that highly unlikely.

In essence, he warned me that lurking behind your, "we never misbehaved, it was all bzx' fault" facade, was a personality that was capable of doing just the sort of thing you just did.

You cannot really compare my actions to anything BETAZX has ever done. 95% of the people in this community knows little if any information about him (including yourself) and most of the things you have had explained to you are infact a very small amount of his abuse.

Well that's a little peculiar, considering the effort I went through to try to drege out ANY specific details from the half-dozen or so people who PM'd me in IRC.  The response to my question, "How SURE are you these abuses were commited by bzx himself, and not krez?", was, almost invariably: Oh, well, krez did all this stuff for sure. But bzx did ban me!

In order to depict his distaste for these situations, lost decided to abuse his admin

To quote a TV science fiction writer, "You cannot explain away a wantonly immoral act because you think that it is connected to some higher purpose."


Regards,

[haunted]

Fortunate enough for me I didn't express any thoughts or feelings. I trying to relieve titties the mental difficulties of trying to decypher why paradisel0st did what he did.

[paradisel0st]

Quadz, you also had text pasted to you where krez himself said something like "Krez: I at least I admit I abused my admin". I have never claimed ANYWHERE to of never misbehaved on assassins. Of course I messed around and did my usual spamming smiley nonsense, etc, but regardless none of this abuse I have talked about was ever personally done to me. It's all things I saw while playing at assassins. Either seeing it happen while at a server, seeing a demo posted, or reading a log. I find it amazing that you talk like you are still not convinced bzx abused his admin. I used to hate krez, but one thing I respect about him is the fact that he straight up says "hey I was a good admin and then yeah I abused the fuck out it". Where as bzx still acts like this great guy who can do and never did any wrong. I'll tell you right now that I am POSITIVE bzx also abused his admin along with krez. The difference being krez is man enough to admit to what he did. That's something that bzx will never be able to do. You still don't seem very confident in the decision you have made.

[Bleach]

writer, "You cannot explain away a wantonly immoral act because you think that it is connected to some higher purpose."

 
aww what a quote that is!

[[BTF] Reflex]

I knew it wasnt adam...   

the rest...  zz z z z z zz

[console]

I used to hate krez, but one thing I respect about him is the fact that he straight up says "hey I was a good admin and then yeah I abused the fuck out it". Where as bzx still acts like this great guy who can do and never did any wrong. I'll tell you right now that I am POSITIVE bzx also abused his admin along with krez. The difference being krez is man enough to admit to what he did. That's something that bzx will never be able to do.

I'll agree to an extent, here.  My belief was and is that the admin behavior got a little more out-of-hand than bzx would admit to me.  He did unapologetically acknowledge some of the behavior ascribed to him, in the conversation below.  But he never seemed to want to admit ever having taken it too far - which went against my gut feelings, and is a contributing factor to him not making it past his tryout period as an admin, if you will.

[13:14] <MaD|bzx> you're only getting their side of it.
[13:16] <quadz> what's your side though?  you did SOME stuff to mess with people? or haven't said otherwise?
[13:17] <MaD|bzx> to the people that insisted on disobeying server rules, yes
[13:17] <MaD|bzx> constantly
[13:18] <MaD|bzx> the old server had strict rules, even against trash talking
[13:18] <MaD|bzx> all that did was ruin the game for everyone else and clog up server logs
[13:19] <MaD|bzx> so trash talking meritted the same rules as cheating did, a kick
[13:19] <MaD|bzx> if an admin was around that is
[13:28] <quadz> so far there seems to be NO doubt that krez took it farther than that, though
[13:28] <MaD|bzx> I wasn't always around, so I can't say
[13:29] <MaD|bzx> but people that dont like him do like to exaggerate
[13:29] <MaD|bzx> but that's to be expected
[13:32] <MaD|bzx> they always give you the worst possible comment about someone they dont like
[13:33] <quadz> i have to say, my instinct tells me that at some point things got beyond kicking trash talkers, and probably more [admins] than just krez started stuffing players they didn't like, after awhile
[13:34] <quadz> with krez, it was apparently proven with server logs
[13:36] <MaD|bzx> there was some stuffing involved, but that was when these people were kicked or banned, changed their IPs, reconnected to the server and disobeyed rules again
[13:37] <MaD|bzx> we had no idea how to ban subnets, so they continually disobeyed rules and caused trouble

You still don't seem very confident in the decision you have made.

The stunt you pulled on the forums didn't help.  It caused me to lend more credence to bzx' story, above.


Regards,

[yodasmyBONG!]

haunted you respond to ALL of my posts

[reaper]

granny floods the forums, and making them cleaner doesn't seem like a thing to be banned from servers for..
however it was obviously biased and shouldn't have been done
just doesn't seem like something someone should be banned from servers for
because , it's not like many of his posts are in good taste, and they are more demos of him in a row, so you can't see them all , etc

[[BTF] Reflex]

Too many in a row? 

Be gentle..  I didnt mean to