fps issues

[banes]

im having problems with my main computer, i have two computers an intel p4 2.5 mhz with a radeon 9600 se 128mb, and a amd athlon 500 with a geforce 4, i can easily get 60 fps on my old athlon with a res of 800x600, however when i go to my new computer which is alteast 5 years newer, i get like 40 fps with fuckin more tweaked out settings, and a lowered res of... 640x480 or whatever, do you see why im upset by this shit? why the fuck is my newer comp getting such a bad frame rate compared to my older one, ive been trying alot of stuff, looking through websites to try to find a solution to no avail, i run no cheat open gl driver but it doesnt really improve my fps rate, please help me, i demand a frame rate of 60 and the most irritating thing is my slow computer can nail it, but since its uncomfortable to play q2 on it, i have to settle for the newer comp which happens to run q2 slower, what should i do?

[{TNP}Dukie]

do you have any kind of antivirus or protection programs running on it.
I run a program called WinPatrol on mine, but I have to shut it off when
I play q2 because it slows it down horribly.

[console]

im having problems with my main computer, i have two computers an intel p4 2.5 mhz with a radeon 9600 se 128mb, and a amd athlon 500 with a geforce 4, i can easily get 60 fps on my old athlon with a res of 800x600, however when i go to my new computer which is alteast 5 years newer, i get like 40 fps with fuckin more tweaked out settings, and a lowered res of... 640x480 or whatever

Strange...
I think the problem is that your p4 is only running 2.5 mhz

If you could crank that up to 2.5 ghz you'd probably be set. 

Just kidding... Seriously, your 2.5 ghz p4 + radeon 9600 should be able to get more like 300 fps in quake2... Or more...  And/or with "wait for vertical sync" turned on, your fast comp. should give you a solid 60 or 72 or whatever your monitor refresh rate is.

Unfortunately I don't know what to suggest...   I'm sure you've downloaded the latest radeon drivers already.  Do you have any other OpenGL games?  Are you getting good framerates in those?  Or they slow too?

You might try downloading the official OpenGL benchmark tools, such as SPECviewperf 8.1:
http://www.spec.org/gpc/opc.static/vp8info.html

...that should in theory let you see how fast your system is rendering, compared to what it should be (maybe check www.tomshardware.com for benchmarks they've done with your radeon 9600 on a similar system, to compare.)

Hope this helps,

Regards,

[Laurelin]

Maybe that discussion from q2players.org can shed some light:
(http://www.q2players.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=122&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

Regards,
Laurelin

[M^tster]

Hmm didnt even know that board existed..thx. 

[banes]

Maybe that discussion from q2players.org can shed some light:
(http://www.q2players.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=122&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

Regards,
Laurelin

i love you laurelin!! you fixed it! i went on that page and ep's comment of gl_ext_paramaters put me on the right track (it was actually gl_ext_pointparameters) thank you so much, its a shame that now that youve helped me improve my q2 fps rate, i will be owning you alot harder now ah isnt it ironic

thx to everyone else who helped to including console rofl ya converting my 2.5 mhz to a 2.5ghz did help me out haha

[Laurelin]

A pleasure 

As for me getting owned by you. I can't wait to see that!

Regards,
Laurelin

[applejacks]

are you turning vsync off in the video driver area?
also how are you measuring fps

the best way is doing the timedemo
timedemo 1
demomap demo1.dm2

A Geforce 4 (depening on which one parred with a decent processor over 1ghz) should dump you over 350fps in q2 actually i think i was getting 400something from my gf4 i cant even remember


i see alot of ppl making the mistake of measuring fps by doing a timerefresh that number will be inconsistent all the time depending on what your looking at at the time.
but either way both video cards you have are good
i would rather have the geforce 4 (only if its a ti 4600) over the 9600

[X'tyfe]

i have a 3gz p4 and 1gb ram with geforece 4 4600
and only get 160 fps at 800x600
my moniter sucks ass :p

[M^tster]

Hahahah I have a 2.3 ghz e-machine w/512mb ddr, no video card sept for the onboard one..Which menas it attached to my motherboard haha.And I get 59 fps no problem...only uses 80-90 of cpu too. :p
Beat that! 

[banes]

Maybe that discussion from q2players.org can shed some light:
(http://www.q2players.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=122&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

Regards,
Laurelin

i love you laurelin!! you fixed it! i went on that page and ep's comment of gl_ext_paramaters put me on the right track (it was actually gl_ext_pointparameters) thank you so much, its a shame that now that youve helped me improve my q2 fps rate, i will be owning you alot harder now ah isnt it ironic

thx to everyone else who helped to including console rofl ya converting my 2.5 mhz to a 2.5ghz did help me out haha

i already solved my problem...thanks anyway

[X'tyfe]

an emachine? ewww 

[M^tster]

hahaha ya only slighty modified..not the hardware either , just an extra fan w/purdy blue lights, and some cold cathode lights inside along with a spiffy window. 

[applejacks]

i have a 3gz p4 and 1gb ram with geforece 4 4600
and only get 160 fps at 800x600
my moniter sucks ass :p

humm what is your monitor refresh rate set at? you should really be getting way over 160
i ran my tests at 1024x768
make sure you turn off vsync in the nivida driver area. just set it in the global settings

[X'tyfe]

iv had problems tweaking my moniter
i know if i turn off vsync the moniter will go black when it shows bright colors, so fariv only seen this happen on white
my refresh is set lower then moniter can handle, i had it at 144 in 800x600 but it was going black the same as turning off my vsync

i have the right drivers for it too, just doesnt make sence other then it sucks

kinda afriad to tweak it anymore, it already broke twice from me trying to do that