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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #75 on: June 12, 2023, 12:35:53 PM »
You're trying to compare yourself to a 10 year old?
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« Reply #76 on: June 12, 2023, 12:36:57 PM »
Yep. We are both human beings wondering about things. No more, no less.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #77 on: June 12, 2023, 12:42:50 PM »
In that case little Timmy, I'd implore you to watch the news. Or do a google search about the bullshit at the border. Quite frankly, it's a human tragedy that you seem to be blissfully unaware of.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #78 on: June 12, 2023, 12:55:30 PM »
I am Timmy, who rides bikes around the neighborhood and plays with my dog. Tell me a source or something from the library I bike to. Anything. Anything at all.

Here is a loose spectrum of sources of knowledge, from least reliable to most reliable:
  • heard it from a whacko person on a street corner
  • heard it from a friend
  • heard it on tv news
  • read it in a professional journal or magazine or newspaper
  • studied it extensively for a paper in college for a degree
  • saw it with my own eyes right in front of me
Which one is this? The middle stuff is the most linkable I guess.

I don't watch much news, just some catch-up here and there. I've heard a few things about immigrant problems at some border, but not much detail. I asked someone on a web forum for more details, but he reacted rather oddly about it with some strange anger.

Signed:
- Timmy, sixth grader wondering about stuff people tell me.
- Joe the Plumber, adult person just wondering about stuff people tell me.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2023, 01:53:09 PM »
Dear Timmy,

I'm a 40-something year old long-haired redneck metalhead biker from the south who doesn't have time or patience for your 10 year old bullshit. I'm not a teacher and this isn't a classroom. If you don't know what is going on in the world, that's not my fault. Things that ARE HAPPENING... ARE HAPPENING. If a tree falls in forest and no one is there to hear it, yes, it still makes a sound. If millions of people are pouring over the southern borders and everyone else knows it but you, it's still happening. I'm not here to debate whether or not it is happening or to what degree it is happening, because I and many other people personally know that it is happening.

YOU want numbers.

Read that sentence again and figure out what needs to happen. And that's really all there is to it. I don't want to look for the numbers to give you. Then again, there's a whole universe of things I don't want to do, so why should this one thing be important in this situation? The real problem is YOURS, not mine. There's likely thousands of sources out there. I'm not gonna provide one just you can call me biased or something when you quote another one that you found on your own that says something different. So save me the trouble and DO IT YOURSELF. Call it whatever fallacy you want, I don't care. I'm not going to waste my time arguing whether or not there is a "border crisis." Because THERE IS, and I'm simply not interested in debating it.

Sincerely,
not your mommy.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #80 on: June 12, 2023, 02:18:17 PM »
Play Free Bird!

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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2023, 02:21:19 PM »
If you wanna hear it, I suggest you google that shit right after you google immigration stats, Timmy.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2023, 03:00:58 PM »
I will do my own research, regardless of being a woke sheeple!! I need to wake up!  I don't know what's going on over there!   I promise to try harder, to do other people's research for them, and ....  ohhh, never mind, just fukk it.

Play Free Bird! <cue the guitar sound and water whistle>

GRRR!!!  Buttery Males! Lock _____ up!  Grrr!  Laptop, some guy named Ben Gazi!  Drone strikes!  Corporal Klinger will now read a story to kids!  etc etc.     alex lifeson says: blah blah

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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #83 on: June 12, 2023, 03:52:25 PM »
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2023, 04:33:10 PM »
Here you go timmy the tampon:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-restricts-asylum-access-mexico-border-title-42-ends-2023-05-10/
"Border crossings top 10,000 daily as migrants seek US entry before Title 42 ends"

10,000 immigrants detained
x 30 days
= 300,000 immigrants per month

300,000 immigrants
x 12 months
= 3,600,000 immigrants detained per year

Compare that with this:

https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey

11.35 total illegal immigrants in the US? Keep in mind, 300k per month is just who they CATCH, it doesn't account for the more than half of them that they DON'T.

This is why I'm not gonna dig into these fuckin "sources" with you. It's stupid, it's pointless, there are SHITLOADS OF IMMIGRANTS, more than ever before. If you wanna argue against that, go find a fuckin brick wall to beat your head against, I'm not interested.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2023, 07:06:13 PM »
Two good sources were produced. I have no argument against either source. I am confused about the hostility here.  I just haven't been following, I follow culture and space and STEM stuff far more.  Thanks for the information.

Did you think I leaned this way or that way on things?  Did we get into a bicker fight on a server in 2011 or something? I'm very confused about the tone.  Maybe this is just how you are with everyone and every topic, I don't know.

Anyhow, thanks again for the information I was looking for in the first place, 24 posts ago.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2023, 09:40:22 PM »
I've already heard too many people trying to compare the influx of Cubans in the 80's to this modern border invasion. These people are like unpaid witless brainless non-commissioned officers in the army of DNC propaganda. They either know they are completely full of shit when they try to pass off this "don't believe your lying eyes and ears" bullshit, or they are genuine duped fools, and either way, their brand of bullshit is something I DO NOT ENTERTAIN.

One argument I sort of anticipated after that was: Yes, but those numbers are record highs. Fine, let's half it, that's still over 1 and a half MILLION immigrants per year... and yet we're supposed to believe that 11-12mil is an accurate current number of illegal immigrants living here? Yeah, that math don't compute. I'm aware of the way they used to come and go and swap social security numbers. It's an aspect of organized crime, one that you never hear about when the FBI discusses that topic. They're too busy filling peoples heads with the idea that "white supremacists" are the biggest organized crime problem we have these days.

And again, those are only immigrants they catch and detain. It's typically estimated that only about 1/4 to 1/3 at most are detained and counted, the rest slip through unnoticed and uncounted. So whatever the yearly number is, multiply that by 3 or 4 and you'll have the likely TOTAL number of immigrants. It's reckless, and it's not sustainable. And it's obvious why the DNC is not in a hurry to instruct anyone to ship these damn people back across the border. Like I said...

let's call it what it is. It's Democrats streamlining the importation of what they believe will be loyal Democrat voters (a form of election meddling, obviously), and they also consider them a reliable source of tax revenue for the government so they can continue their obscene spending habits. They do not really care about these people and do not care to make their lives better (otherwise they'd focus more on the problem of what is making them decide to immigrate in the first place). They are a means to an end.

And one more thing...

...Quite frankly, it's a human tragedy...

That was not a casual flippant summary, I seriously mean the word "TRAGEDY". It's a fucking NIGHTMARE at the border. Instances of rape are RAMPANT in the temporary holding facilities (the 'kids in cages' they liked so much to mention while uber-racist Trump was prez... the ones that Obama installed in the first place... and the same ones that Biden is STILL USING). You hear these wokey fucks talking about women's rights so much like they give a shit... they don't. They wanna go green and save the planet for the children... meanwhile hundreds of kids are getting raped coming across the border that they've essentially opened wide to everyone. The fact that so few border patrol workers are committing suicide is both a miracle and a testament to their level of professionalism, because anyone else being forced to bear witness to the levels of suffering and tragedy that is going on would develop severe depression and a drinking problem within the first week.
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Re: UFO SPACECRAFT CONFIRMED BY USA
« Reply #87 on: June 12, 2023, 10:19:18 PM »
There are a lot of things to be concerned about on this Planet Earth.

The "wolves" or whatever they are called, with trucks of migrants dying in an abandoned oven truck in the hot desert, that is pure terror. Evil Mofos.

Bombing Ukraine for no good reason - also evil. (even though I know people who think it is USA's fault)

Reddit suddenly charging a ton for API access - this is why so many subreddits have gone dark today.

Homeless tent camps rampant all over - current Seattle mayor is doing a good job cleaning that up, I hope they get the help that they need.

My railgun aim is way off.

Canada wildfires, global warming, climate change, etc. - I hope we can deal with that somehow. Al Gore, hello?

Twitter / Musk / "free speech".  Sigh. A dork with good intentions in some ways, but clownish in other ways.

ChatGPT / AI - gawd I was sick of hearing about this after a couple weeks. Please, go away.  "I'll be back" I'm sure.

War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades!


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« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2023, 12:56:42 AM »
Bombing Ukraine for no good reason - also evil. (even though I know people who think it is USA's fault)

 :busted:

It is.

The Maidan Revolution (during the Obama-Biden admin) was sparked with the help of DNC/George Soros funded political ops organizing through social media. USA was literally meddling in Ukrainian politics. How does Russia respond? They forcibly annex the Crimea region.

Meanwhile on the other side of town, Hunter Biden, a crackhead with a working knowledge of thai hookers and fuck else, is installed on the board of the biggest energy company in Ukraine as a consultant with no real job to perform making multiple times more than any similar consultant in the history of the world. It's pretty fishy. Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor general of Ukraine, thought so too, but wouldn't you know it, before he could begin officially investigating the matter, VP Joe Biden made a phone call saying, "If you want the money, FIRE this guy." And in some circles, some might call that a case of "quid pro quo".

Check the video here for proof:

https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden

FFW to 51:50 (is it crazy that 5150 is the California police code for a crazy person?)

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And that is I’m desperately concerned about the backsliding on the part of Kiev in terms of corruption. They made—I mean, I’ll give you one concrete example. I was—not I, but it just happened to be that was the assignment I got. I got all the good ones. And so I got Ukraine. And I remember going over, convincing our team, our leaders to—convincing that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him.

(Laughter.)

I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

Fact checkers drinking the Biden kool-aid will attempt to tell you that he wasn't investigating Burisma or Hunter.  :hmmm:



Isn't it odd that they claim that the reason he wanted Shokin fired is because he wasn't pursuing corruption among the Ukrainian politicians, but no one can seem to pinpoint any specific and apparently known political corruption among the many politicians that he might've been referring to. But we CAN pinpoint dated documents filed prior to Shokin's firing proving that he was indeed initiating the investigation into Burisma.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story/

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For instance, Burisma’s American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the country’s chief prosecutor and offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about the Ukrainian prosecutors, according to the Ukrainian government’s official memo of the meeting. The effort to secure that meeting began the same day the prosecutor’s firing was announced.

...

The memos raise troubling questions:

1.)   If the Ukraine prosecutor’s firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma’s American legal team refer to those allegations as “false information?”

2.)   If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma’s American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?

Fast-forward to the Trump administration. Trump called President Zelensky telling him he needed to investigate the situation. How does the DNC react? They impeach Trump alleging "quid pro quo".

Meanwhile... Hell even lefty media sources like USA Today can't deny the hypocrisy of the situation... or no, actually they TOTALLY FUCKING CAN...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

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Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

Even if it were true, it's still fuckin "quid pro quo",... but... He's a democrat, and democrats are the party who just want to HELP the people, give them healthcare, shit like that, mkay. So if he does it for the noble cause of "ousting a corrupt prosecutor", then it's OKAY, right? Meanwhile, once again, no one can seem to pinpoint specifically what it is that makes this prosecutor "corrupt". How many times does shit like that have to happen before a person starts to wonder if they're being pumped full o' bullshit?

Fast-forward again to the Biden admin. Talks with Ukraine indicate a clear possibility that Ukraine could join NATO, which would effectively park US military assets right along the Russian border. Gee, do you think if Mexico accepted some kind of alliance with Russia that would allow them to keep considerable Russian military assets within striking distance of US soil that the Pentagon wouldn't be shitting their pants and reacting with military force?

And now you know why Russia invaded Ukraine. And it's pretty much all Biden's fault.
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« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2023, 01:16:24 AM »
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which would effectively park US military assets right along the Russian border

If a neighbor of mine is standing on his property on his side of the fence, with a handgun pointed toward the ground, this gives me the right to invade their property, weapons shooting? 

Skipping to the answer:  No, it does not give anyone a right to aggressively attack their neighbor like this.  The logical or civil thing to do is just stare them down and talk things out until it cools off.

Or, you know, just deal with the fact that a neighbor who is worried about your hostile attitude is sitting next to your fence with a weapon pointed at the ground, ready to defend themself.

The 1962 Cuban Missile crisis was handled via a *blockade*, not an attack, so don't even go there.

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