focalor, if this isn't walling then idk what is

[Admin]

Any admins reading this and feel the need to ban me for using a wall-hack in the demo, go for it. I was hoping this could turn into something where I provide information on how I did this, but at this point I'm too dis-heartened to think that would do any good.

We've encountered this personality type before.

Smoke screen of finger pointing and whataboutery.

Pray tell, what magical set of circumstances would need to have materialized before this could "turn into" something where you'd "provide information"?

That's not how any of this works. Someone truly interested in helping would have reached out to our admins in the first place with said information, and certainly would NOT now be humblebragging about holding this information in some sort of emotionally manipulative escrow.

As a courtesy, anticheat is now required on your subnet.

History has taught many of us that those who obsess the most about cheating are often the ones doing it.

Isn't is peculiar how reliable this rule of thumb has seemed to be, over the years.

[SlobbOnMyCob]

Pray tell, what magical set of circumstances would need to have materialized before this could "turn into" something where you'd "provide information"?

That's not how any of this works. Someone truly interested in helping would have reached out to our admins in the first place with said information, and certainly would NOT now be humblebragging about holding this information in some sort of emotionally manipulative escrow.

I thought about just writing the dam wall-hacking spotting guide myself. But I'm not a known member of the community, I created the "wallhacking guide" thread with the hopes of getting a known member to  publish the guide. With my information and the feedback given from community members this "guide" could've been very high-standing (especially if publish under a name everyone knows).

History has taught many of us that those who obsess the most about cheating are often the ones doing it.

Isn't is peculiar how reliable this rule of thumb has seemed to be, over the years.

It was already seen as suspicious for me to ask about the possibility of a wall-hacking guide since nobody knew me. After everything that has happened I'm glad I never did pm anyone.

Someone truly interested in helping would have reached out to our admins in the first place

I don't understand this? Everything I have done was a reach out to admins AND the community.
All in all there was wall-hacking in the video. Calling me lair or just arrogantly choosing to not accept what is a fact furthers the point of how toxic these forums are.

 

[Admin]

[|iR|Focalor]

how toxic these forums are.

No one's forcing you to stay. You keep posting. You keep posting BULLSHIT, might I add. Did you even consider that records would indicate that "Justin" did not have a 2nd occurrence of the same IP logged into the server at the time that demo was recorded, therefore it's literally impossible to have recorded a 3rd person demo of yourself? Nah, you probably didn't think about that. Next time you're gonna LIE... plan your lie out better.

[bluemeanies]

Blah blah blah

Make less sense you obtuse fuck stick.

I realize I'm a giant asshole but I feel like God gave me the gift to quickly know when someone's being a willfully obtuse wannabe faux troll, allowing me to give them a response exactly in proportion to their worthless time consuming fuckery...Praise Science!

[haunted]

I think most people knew. You definitely put forth the least effort so kudos.

I've been so busy with my son's second birthday party(yesterday) and his actual birthday today that I never actually had time to ban this guy. So I won't, AC forced on subnet is good enough...... for now 

[|iR|Focalor]

how toxic these forums are.

No one's forcing you to stay. You keep posting. You keep posting BULLSHIT, might I add. Did you even consider that records would indicate that "Justin" did not have a 2nd occurrence of the same IP logged into the server at the time that demo was recorded, therefore it's literally impossible to have recorded a 3rd person demo of yourself? Nah, you probably didn't think about that. Next time you're gonna LIE... plan your lie out better.

No response to that one, huh? I guess it's gonna take a while to bend reality that far to concoct a semi-reasonable explanation. Lemme guess... you had a "friend" record you and send you the demo. Or maybe your second connection on a second PC was connected by horking a neighbors wifi. And we'd TOOOOOOTALLY believe either one of those excuses, because we've NEEEEEEEVER heard them before, because you're soooooooooooooo clever that you thought of it first.

[haunted]

He's been ignoring me the whole time. It's why I rhetorically asked why he wasn't replying to my posts the other day. I already knew why.

Now he's private messaging me on an alternate account pretending to be a different player.

[SlobbOnMyCob]

how toxic these forums are.

No one's forcing you to stay. You keep posting. You keep posting BULLSHIT, might I add. Did you even consider that records would indicate that "Justin" did not have a 2nd occurrence of the same IP logged into the server at the time that demo was recorded, therefore it's literally impossible to have recorded a 3rd person demo of yourself? Nah, you probably didn't think about that. Next time you're gonna LIE... plan your lie out better.

No response to that one, huh? I guess it's gonna take a while to bend reality that far to concoct a semi-reasonable explanation. Lemme guess... you had a "friend" record you and send you the demo. Or maybe your second connection on a second PC was connected by horking a neighbors wifi. And we'd TOOOOOOTALLY believe either one of those excuses, because we've NEEEEEEEVER heard them before, because you're soooooooooooooo clever that you thought of it first.

OR I recorded him using the wall-hack while he was playing from his own computer??? There's this new thing called 'texting' you should try it sometime. Maybe let out some of this anger at not being right all the time.

He's been ignoring me the whole time. It's why I rhetorically asked why he wasn't replying to my posts the other day. I already knew why.

Now he's private messaging me on an alternate account pretending to be a different player.

Flea, that isn't me. You should teach focalor about texting whenever you're not carving names on a bathroom wall somewhere

[haunted]

💤

[|iR|Focalor]

Sooooooo... your "friend" was using a wallhack, and both of you had this whole scenario planned out ahead of time, but YOU were the one who came forward about it, whilst he sits in the shadows and lets you do all the talking. Where is this "friend"? If he's friendly enough to wallhack for your whitehatted goodguy badge-ry, surely he'll come to the forums and post something to corroborate your story. I wonder if his IP will resemble the IP of "Justin" at all. I wonder if that IP will more closely resemble YOUR OWN. Or I wonder if the word "proxy" will somehow be bandied about.

This story will certainly get more and more complex the longer you have to explain it. Occam's razor: the simplest explanation is usually the most correct. And in the beginning, it was quite simple. You thought some guy was wallhacking and you were wrong.

Everybody knows you're full of it. Drop the charade and move on, mmkay?

[Sgt. Dick]

I find it a little odd that he has talked about you being ass spanked on more than one occasion 

[SlobbOnMyCob]

No response to that one, huh? I guess it's gonna take a while to bend reality that far to concoct a semi-reasonable explanation. Lemme guess... you had a "friend" record you and send you the demo. Or maybe your second connection on a second PC was connected by horking a neighbors wifi. And we'd TOOOOOOTALLY believe either one of those excuses, because we've NEEEEEEEVER heard them before, because you're soooooooooooooo clever that you thought of it first.

This story will certainly get more and more complex the longer you have to explain it. Occam's razor: the simplest explanation is usually the most correct. And in the beginning, it was quite simple. You thought some guy was wallhacking and you were wrong.

    "Arguing over the internet is like the Special Olympics, even if you win you're still a retard"
I think mine is more correct in your case.

Everybody knows you're full of it. Drop the charade and move on, mmkay?

Oh Focalor, this has been over ever since you said it wasn't a wallhack.

Just watched the 1st demo. Totally NOT wallhacking. I'd bet 100 bucks on it.
GO FISH.

Time to pay up bitch.

GO FISH.

[Admin]

Everybody knows you're full of it. Drop the charade and move on, mmkay?

Oh Focalor, this has been over ever since you said it wasn't a wallhack.

Just watched the 1st demo. Totally NOT wallhacking. I'd bet 100 bucks on it.
GO FISH.

Time to pay up bitch.

Hadn't figured on researching this further, but what the hell, why not.

According to WallFly logs:

  - both demos were recorded on DM server, evening of 2017-12-05
  - "justin" in the demo was same IP used by justin/deft for over 500 days (and same ISP since 2011)

In other words, there's no mysterious 'friend' involved. It's deft's exact IP.

Incidentally, just before the demos, OP says:

[2017-12-05 Tue 23:28:50] :MaD:sLob3! was cut in half by justin's chaingun
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:29:18] :MaD:sLob3! has moved to the sidelines
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:31:25] :MaD:sLob3!: justin you get one chance
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:31:31] :MaD:sLob3!: turn off the wallhacks
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:31:32] :MaD:sLob3!: now

And just after the second demo cuts off:

[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:11] :MaD:sLob3!: brb
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:28] :MaD:sLob3!: justin youve dug your grave on this one
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:30] :MaD:sLob3! disconnected


Anyway, available evidence suggests someone who really thought he saw a wallhack, and after opinions to the contrary from multiple experts, experienced cognitive dissonance of sufficient degree to prompt confabulation.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[2d]

Where is 2d when you need him. He will tell you someone was feeding him information.

i am so great