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[fdrjk]

and i thought i lived in a hick town

[haunted]

It would be in your best interest to make a spectacle and switch the discussion over to your chick pea/fecal matter mixture, I agree.

[|iR|Focalor]

Hummus is the easiest shit in the world to scam on because it's become so popular lately. Buy the cheapest hummus possible at your local discount grocer, then repack it in plain clear containers, slap a label on it written with a sharpie, double or triple the price on it and claim it's homemade organic. Vegans retards with more money than brains will fight each other for it. Have a decent sized sign with the doubled price on it on display behind the product. About an hour or more before closing if there's any left, mark it down 50 or 66% on the sign to the original purchase price to make people think they're getting a better deal and at least you won't be left with a bunch of it.

I dunno how the markets do in Cali, but out here unless you're making more than a certain amount of income from sales yearly, you don't have to actually verify that your merchandise is 100% organic.

[adz1La]

damn, thanks for teaching me about markets and hummus fellas

[|iR|Focalor]

Hehe, you're fuckin' welcome.

The point is that a lot of the urban and suburban white people who shop at farmers markets are fucking idiots ripe to be scammed. They think they're getting nothing but 100% organic all natural vegetables. Truth is that quite a bit of the shit going onto the shelves at your local Kroger or Publix or whatever is the SAME SHIT you find at the large organized farmers markets. And even if it WERE 100% organic all natural shit, most people would never really be able to tell the difference, and in some cases, they'd actually PREFER the shit grown with chemicals, hormones, and processed fertilizers. I've grown all kinds of shit, and the only difference I can really tell is in tomatoes. There's a good bit of difference in taste in homegrown Georgia tomatoes and the shit you get in the Walmart produce department. The acidity of the soil can have a huge difference in the taste. If you just till up a plot of land on your property and start planting shit, more than likely you're gonna have soil on the acidic side, and the resulting tomatoes will have a good bit more sugar content than the shit you get at the store year-round.

Just saying that small local farmers markets can be a good way to make money if you don't mind being a little less than honest. In fact you could literally clean off the shelf at you local Publix of roma tomatoes and zucchini and whatever else, take the stickers off, get a booth at a local farmers market, mark it all up 50 to 100%, and tell people you grew it at home. I've done it myself a time or two.

You still make more growing it yourself of course. And some of it is actually very easy to grow and sells well. In the south, people will buy the shit out of squash, and any dumb fuck can grow it. Zucchini and yellow squash are soooo easy as long as you have plenty of space to grow it, you spray it once every week or two for insects that kill the plants, and you harvest it every day or two. The shit will produce and produce and produce nearly all summer long. Let em get a tad larger than the shit you get in the store, and you sell em for 50 cents to a dollar each. And people will pay that because it's homegrown. Watermelon and cucumbers are good too. Plant about 5 to 10 seeds in one little hole (which is more than what they recommend, but fuck it, it's more plants in one area and more shit to sell). All you gotta do is keep it watered. And when it comes time to harvest it, you'll have shitloads of boxes full of the stuff. I've found that it's best to keep it growing over a nice thick bed of pine straw to keep the fruits from sitting in the mud, because if you water it and it sits in a puddle of water and mud it can discolor and rot the outsides before they ripen. Anyway... Easy money if you don't mind spending the time keeping it watered, spraying it for bugs, picking it, and spending one day a week at the market. No business license needed. Tax free if you want it to be.

I live in a subdivision in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. I've loaded up boxes and baskets full of shit I've grown in the back of my truck and parked out at the entrance to the neighborhood selling shit lots of times. No paying 35 bucks for a booth and no neighboring competition like at the market. I get to make friends with all the people in the neighborhood, which can come in handy sometimes. People around here tend to be very friendly, and now that they've all seen me out there so much, sometimes they'll come to my house asking to buy shit.

[ex]

FYI to everyone:  Everything that you ingest is organic.  There is no difference.  Except for the price.

The United Stupid of America have all gone coo-coo for the whole "organic" craze, and there is no reason for it.  Just a marketing ploy to make some assface with too much money more money by selling you the exact same product for double the price.  Fucking dumb.

And yeah, on the thing about upcharging people:  Lots of people do that here.  I went to Traders Village (a huge flea/farmers market in DFW area) a while back and saw these assholes selling Anaheim peppers for a dollar a piece.  WTF?  Those things barely cost that per pound at Walmart, and you can get several of 'em for that.  They didn't look like the same Anaheims that are at Walmart, mind you.  They were fully developed in deep colors of orange and red.  But still, fuck that.  If they were home-grown, that's just as bad if not worse.  It cost those asshole Mexicans practically nothing to grow them.

I love peppers but not that much. 

[|iR|Focalor]

Actually there IS a difference in "organic" and everything else, and it's law. I don't know the exact specifics of it, but if I remember correctly, if you sell a certain amount, you are required to obtain legal certification of organic growing practices which consists of natural soil building processes, non-chemical pesticides and parasite control measures, as well as strict heirloom isolation practices for the purpose of legitimate heirloom preservation. I think it costs something like 250 bucks annually, maybe it varies from state to state, I dunno. Like I said, I'm not 100% sure what the letter of the law is on it, but I think it's 100% legal for any private small scale grower to call their produce "organic" without having it legally certified as such. Some people are aware of these laws and will only purchase produce from certified organic retailers.

[haunted]

yeah, what foc said, plus gluten-free, free grazing meat typically not fed grains, etc.. not to mention it guarantees that no GMO's are in there as well. It's not the biological definition of organic(deriving from life/carbon), it's the alternate and more broad meaning relating with food.

"Trader Joe's isn't a farmer's market, but they're everywhere, and they sell all organic at decent prices.. not to mention 2-3$ bottles of local wine.

[ex]

What I meant:  the end product is no different, except for the price tag on it.  Your body isn't going to notice the difference between an organic bell pepper and a Walmart bell pepper.  Idiotic to think otherwise.

The whole legal thing surrounding it just adds more fuel to this idiocy as well.  To be certified organic, it has to pass a certain legal code which growers pay more for, so they can charge the consumer more for the same fucking product.  Has nothing to do with if the product is even any better or not (and it isn't).

Sigh...

[|iR|Focalor]

That's not entirely known at the moment. Trace amounts of pesticides from vegetables that aren't thoroughly washed and scrubbed could possibly have side effects that take long periods of time to develop. They could develop so slowly that their true effects might be somewhat masked by other health issues which they only help aggravate. Like the hormones they used to give milk cows to make them produce more milk. It was evident that it had negative effects on the cows long term overall health, but they always claimed that it was completely safe for human consumption... and yet most major dairies no longer use it and proudly say so on the labels. Maybe consumer rage was the mitigating factor, but I can't believe that a corporation would allow ANYONE to dictate to them that they should produce LESS product. On the other hand, I can TOTALLY believe that a corporation would listen to a panel of scientists and lawyers telling them that their product could possibly cause adverse health issues and leave them vulnerable to lawsuits. But who knows.

I suppose the annual certification pays for inspections that allow the government, an outside impartial party, to guarantee the consumer that they are not being lied to when a retailer claims their produce is "organic". And if consumers WANT it, someones always gonna work to oblige them and collect their money.

Part of the reason that organic costs more is not just because the consumer picks up the tab for the organic certification. It often costs more to properly maintain the crops. They'll use more expensive pheromones to attract certain beneficial insects like ladybugs that control aphids or they'll maintain bee hives nearby to aid in pollination, etc etc. The plants are also more susceptible to mold and fungus and disease, so often they will yield less than non-organic methods.

[Golgo13]

Organic Ra2 FTW.

[2d]

haunted is owned

[animosity]

How can 2dum even speak on ra2? He's been around for 2 years at best? I started playing ra2 in 99 and have continued to do so on and off since then. The people 2dum are arguing with (adren, haunted, etc) have been around for years and years playing q2/ra2, they have competed, started or joined clans and seen the OGL come and go. 2dum saying he's done anything for ra2 is like a Mexican jumping the border yesterday and screaming, " If it wasn't for me, America wouldn't be here!!!!"

[2d]

How can 2dum even speak on ra2? He's been around for 2 years at best?

I've played ra2 since my highschool years (98 - 01) and used to use the name 2dum2run. Ive been in many clans and reached #2 on ogl with my own team as well as ringing. When hals server died i left the scene only to return a couple years ago.

Ra2 is alive because of us (2dum, random creep and cb) gtfo

Knocked the fuck out rk

[|iR|Focalor]

Good job staying out of the negatives in KoTH tonight, queer. Yeah, you didn't did you? It's called sarcasm, you fuckin retard. It was hard to tell who kicked your ass worse... your opponent or the fuckin lava. Dumb shit.