more maps?

[MK-801]

Could someone please add those to the rotation? Before you tell me to go to mutant - trust me - I do as often as I can see players there but sadly nobody goes there anymore. I miss the old days.

Those maps are all good and vanilla appropriate.

paradm4
trdm04a
marics28
mas2ft1
ven_dm2
grom_dm3
ancient
auh2dm3
fixed1
koth2
koth3
koth4
koth5

[quadz]

Added to vanilla: paradm4 trdm04a mas2ft1 ven_dm2

[MK-801]

you are the man! 

[Th0m@s29]

Cool Nice!

[MK-801]

Could you add some more from that list plz? If you want I can give you a short list of the shittiest maps (imo) to take off the vanilla rotation as well.

[Lilom]

I want to second this. Mutant has some great maps, but nobody goes there.
Should we create a topic to vote some maps on vanilla?
Only the best

[|iR|Focalor]

Years ago back when I was in [EoM] and we were having FFA get-togethers every Friday night, I went through every last map and made up a maplist of about 30 or 40 of the very best maps available (maps that were very well designed, good and balanced item/weapon placements, good texture usage and overall looks). If an admin could cut and paste the maplist off the EoM server, that would be a good and easy starting point for picking out some new stuff to use. (Pretty sure I still have ref mode and rcon passwords bound to keys in my config, but I don't think I still have the ftp password anywhere) I think when I made the maplist, I added all 8 of the plain old stock DM maps and scattered them throughout the normal rotation just because people dropping by for the "EoM Fun Frag Friday" thing still wanted to play those too. I think I also stuck in a couple of maps that only placements for railguns and armor shards with no health (basically modified instagib gameplay), so without the "railz" maps and DM maps, it would be a shorter list. All the other maps were mostly Mutant server custom maps and perhaps a tiny handful of single player maps, I can't remember.

If that's not doable, then my recommendation would be any maps made by Jdolan or Panjoo, and there's several of the Marics maps that are pretty good.

[quadz]

If an admin could cut and paste the maplist off the EoM server, that would be a good and easy starting point for picking out some new stuff to use.

Looks like this might be it?

fragbait:/home/eom/quake2/tourney/mapcfg/eomffa.txt

yog2dm4
q2dm8
yog2dm3b
levels
unrdm1
4u2map13
torment
fixed1
spasmo3
shadows
ztn2dm1
semper06
trdm06
rvndm1
4u2map12a
rene53
joyride
rene51
q2dm1
rene24
ztn2dm4
rcdm11
xldm5
qmass2dm4
ztn2dm3
qmass2dm3
4u2map15
pigs
broken3
paradm4
aerowalk
pandm8
yundm1
nitrogen
q2dm6
nedhyst
q2dm2
mkfutile
q2dm5
mas2ft1
q2dm3
marics_con1
ztn2dm2
marics56
q2dm7
lunout
ven_dm2
leray32
bldstorm
laurail3
ztn2dm5
kta
q2dm1_noob
krypton
thegoth
jverte
jstress
jsos
jschzm
jackboot
in2obl
grdm3
grdm1
alkdm15
2box4
carena

Should we create a topic to vote some maps on vanilla?
Only the best

Note that historically maps on vanilla have been required to use predominantly stock textures. So that would rule out maps like 'jackboot' in the list above, for example.


Also, for reference, here's the current set of `mymap` maps on vanilla right now:

4u2map12a 4u2map15 ad_mortem aerowalk apq2dm1 arma5 as2m7 base1 base2 base3 bcentral biggun bigspacegunup bloodrun boss1 boss2 brokenedge bugdm5 bugdm6 bunk1 burger campcity campgrounds city1 city2 city3 colour command cool1 corn2 corn3 cxdm1 daf2dm1 dakyneq2 dm3_q2 dm7mod dmpak2_1 dmpak2_3 fact1 fact2 fact3 fixed1 frdm3 fury fusion giftdm6 grom_dm3 grunt hammer hangar1 hangar2 hardange henneckq2dm3-2 hipdm1 hub ikdm4 jail1 jail2 jail3 jail4 jail5 japang johnnydm4 knuckledm1 kolddm3 koth1 koth6 koth7 ktdm8 lab match1 mine1 mine2 mine3 mine4 mintro ohmdm3 opus outpost paradm4 power1 power2 q2dm1 q2dm2 q2dm3 q2dm4 q2dm5 q2dm6 q2dm7 q2dm8 q2dmstrk q2rdm13 qmass2dm3 ranbase2 redyard rene24 rene51 rvndm1 security semper06 sewer64 sgwbase slideways_dm space spirit2dm3 stellar strike subzero tastydm2 torment train trdm04a trs tsm_dest unrdm1 vd6dm1 ven_dm2 ware1 ware2 waste1 waste2 waste3 wasted wizq2dm6 worn wtf!2 wulfhere xldm5 ztn2dm2 ztn2dm3 ztn2dm4 ztn2dm5

[|iR|Focalor]

Q2DM1_noob (The Edge - Noob On U) was a map override Razor did for us back before he went full retard. Probably his one and only legitimate and useful contribution to the Q2 community. It's just The Edge with nothing but BFG's and cells for all the weapons and ammo. Was kinda fun when it was just 3 or 4 people. With 8 to 12 people like Vanilla sometimes has, I dunno how fun people would find it to be. Might be something fun to include out of the rotation but mymap-able just as a goof.

I think qmass2dm3 and qmass2dm4 were maps Jdolan did. I seem to remember all his map files started with "qmass", and there were other qmass maps I would've liked to have included on that maplist. I think at the time, all I saw was about 4 or 5 total qmass2dm maps. If there's any other maps Jdolan did for Q2, people should take a look at them.

Not everyone who's ever made maps for Q2 has used good map design. A good map should have several routes to travel with a few multilevel intersection points that allow for more than 2 route options when escaping or pursuing a fight. That's one of the flaws of a few of the single player maps, they are already mostly designed to be one linear path from an entrance to an exit point which is why someone cut holes in a few of the walls to add circular flow to key areas and multiple routes to key weapons. Those "after market" cut-throughs alleviate the most major problems with congestion and rampant douchery camping/ambushing, but not completely, especially at the extreme ends of such linear designed maps. On the other hand, it's not necessarily a game breaker, because sometimes it's nice to be able to trap an opponent in one area giving them only one route option for escape. If it weren't for the shortcuts someone cut into a few of the vanilla maps, it would become too prevalent and annoy the shit out of players.

[|iR|Focalor]

Went over the list a little, here's a few of my favorites from it:

• yog2dm4
• qmass2dm4
• pigs
• pandm8

[quadz]

Added the following to vanilla:

• qmass2dm4
• pandm8

Also added to the rotation:

brokenedge fixed1 colour dckdm2 unrdm1 semper06 wasted opus wizq2dm6 spirit2dm3 as2m7 uultrav kolddm3 daf2dm1 dkshaft xldm5 subzero giftdm6 apq2dm1 campgrounds

[Lilom]

Thank you quadz. I love it. I only saw 1 negative reaction so far, from EDM-Dude. "This is not vanilla, I can't find enough humping spots on the maps."

[Edm-Dude]

  Lilom, wth, I was just voicing my opinion on the maps, not really wanting a reply or not, lol  I was just saying that things have changed, and it's not the same since 2000, hehe!! 

[Zeppelin]

Oh Look! Rusty Kuntz is here!!!

[Edm-Dude]

Just a small thing about map designs, ei, SP maps, and some custom maps I have seen over the years. I feel that the weapon placement can really be a hinder to some player, I have heard some complaints, (not here, but on other sites at the time) of putting the railgun in an open area for anyone to grab fairly easy, and put the BFG away in a room, or at the end of a hall/ room, 1 way in and out, so either people can camp it, or in some cases trap a player low on health so your basically getting free frags in a dead end room, lol

I guess any maps can have pros/cons to it, and I know eveyone's a differant style of play, but I guess for some it becomes a lopsided game, when some people just dash for that BFG in the end hallway, lol

Another thing too, is the maps on here, and other custom maps like the ZTN ones really change when you add the WoD mod or the LoX mod with all the different types of guns you can get.