snarf wants to play quake 2 -banned

[Whirlingdervish]

You got banned for the new purchased wallhack a week or more ago. Then YESTERDAY you tried to connect using a detected wallhack on the Tastyspleen community server: tsla.

Sounds like you were trying to find one that would work for you, or you still had not removed the one you purchased and now it was detected.


Now we should believe that you made ONE mistake, and you are now very sorry for it, when we've seen multiple mistakes and no signs of you being sorry, or making any change in your behavior?




PS: you were using a wallhack against me when I played you last and you were such a coward that you could not run forward or press a single attack and you had to hide in mega room and +back to get kills with spam aimed right at someone you could see the whole time with your cheats.
For reference, I am horrible at duel. This makes you even more horrible.

I also did not try to join recently (within the last 2 weeks) with any type of hack.

Funny, your IP and anticheat say otherwise.

[haunted]

for all purposes, yes that's correct and that's how it works. And yes, r1ch's inactivity hinders that. I have come across a working wallhack(not detected by AC) with a word 97 readme file(obviously old). . . There's likely still a few more ancient/less known ones that still work with AC like that. I'd go inasmuch to say that it's relatively possible for it to show up as something unknown to the anticheat server, but still not show a definite red flag or something....assuming the person is clever with their cheating as well. Again, r1ch's inactivity would/could attribute to that as well.

More problematic are tactics that address anticheat itself and not just coming across a hack that just happens to work. This is the obvious difference between razor and an actual clever programmer familiar with q2 and with bad intentions... but, just because it's more problematic, doesn't mean that it can't be stopped. The only and clever way I'm aware of is/was easily blocked....i'm open-minded to their being other methods that aren't as easy to recognize/block/etc. though.

and btw... he met the guy he bought the hack off of on an cheating website hub for many games. I made an account there as haunted and private messaged him(for amusement.. something on the lines of "hey there buddy, what's up?"... That was about 3-4 weeks ago. Since I've logged on about 5x to see if he responded and I check his username to see his most recent activity. He had logged on the cheating website recently EVERY time that I checked for this. From today, the last time he has logged in on that site was 7 days ago.

[Snarf]

If my understanding of how AC works is correct, he was PREVIOUSLY using his wallhack undetected with AC, but AC still kept a running account of the unknown process every time he connected with it with AC loaded. I am to assume that it would be possible to designate that specific previously unknown process as a now known cheat and kick/ban whenever it detects its usage by anyone again. Not sure if anyone would actually need a complete copy of the hack file/s in order to define the process for scanning purposes. Also, I haven't seen R1CH around the TS irc channel in a long time, so who knows if AC can be updated any with new data if he ain't around to do it.

Nevertheless, from what a few people have said, he actually PAID CASH MONEY for this working wallhack. That's a higher level of douchery if you ask me. Buddy needs to sit with his nose in the corner for a while before anyone considers letting him jump back in. You gotta be a complete sucker to think he's actually sorry for what he did rather than just being sorry that he got caught doing it. I dunno about anyone else, but I certainly don't get the impression that he's ready to completely turn over a new leaf and go 100% legit from now on. Maybe if he'd provide admins with a copy of the files and all info about where and how he got them, then maybe I'd be more inclined to believe that he's sincere.

This i would be more than willing to do.    edit/ I was approached by someone who went by the name of just "a" in the TSLA server who claimed that a user by the name of "Kazik" was using certain undetectable cheats. Yes haunted i browsed online looking to see if these cheats were actually available and if others were actually using them. Needless to say yes on the aimbots.net website i found a Polish guy by the name of Filip who said he has several different hacks that work on active servers. So i kind of came to the conclusion that on top of being out of much practice and knowing this stuff was so easily available that I'd try to even the playing field. I am really sorry for being a dick and doing that. I ask you guys for a second chance and if either like hypercamming my setup or somehow proving to an admin I'm willing to do the right thing and play fair. That i promise  plx :/

[haunted]

Kazik = a polish cheater who was kicked out of euroq2l a few years ago, then moved to USA. He went by the name RyD3L, and similar to you denies his original alias. He calls people "idiots" for thinking he is ryd3l, when as an admin for the tourney servers, I have seen his isp/ip cross-referenced to the past. It is obviously him(although not the same exact ip).

This is the typical pathological behavior of cheaters, and it doesn't surprise me in the least that he confided in you.

If you want to impress an admin you can start with me. Start with revealing your true alias to me, and by uploading the wallhack you used/any other cheats you have come across. If you do not satisfy these two requisites I will do all that's in my power to make sure you are never able to connect to a q2 server ever again. And if you do, well... lets just say you'd be in better standing than not.

your choice.

[Snarf]

Kazik = a polish cheater who was kicked out of euroq2l a few years ago, then moved to USA. He went by the name RyD3L, and similar to you denies his original alias. He calls people "idiots" for thinking he is ryd3l, when as an admin for the tourney servers, I have seen his isp/ip cross-referenced to the past. It is obviously him(although not the same exact ip).

This is the typical pathological behavior of cheaters, and it doesn't surprise me in the least that he confided in you.

If you want to impress an admin you can start with me. Start with revealing your true alias to me, and by uploading the wallhack you used/any other cheats you have come across. If you do not satisfy these two requisites I will do all that's in my power to make sure you are never able to connect to a q2 server ever again. And if you do, well... lets just say you'd be in better standing than not.

your choice.

I wasn't lying to you when you first met me Jesse. My name is Jason and I go by snarf/ouch!hot/heidi and loki that is it.I will upload it to you although I don't know how. do you have an email ?  It's an opengl.dll file 

[haunted]

I will PM you my e-mail now.

and look.. I'm sorry but I don't buy that in the least. I already have my suspicions of who you could possibly be, as in those geographically similar to you that could conceivably be you(within a few hours driving distance of your location).

And if I'm wrong even with my guesses, then i'd still be more inclined to think that you are someone from the past that simply moved to a different area.

So basically it's going to be a very tough job to convince me of that story.

[Snarf]

I'm not lying about my identity. Who do you think I am? Surely there is some way i can prove i am not whoever it is you think i am.  I am being as straight forward and honest with you as i possibly can :/

[[BTF] Reflex]

Weeee!   


I looked up his names when we played the other night,  forget when but I can dig out demos.

Was some fun games.  He won edge a few times, then lost on the 3 or 4 maps we played after that.
I think I might have even AC'd him after a shot. 
Based on his play/"sound knowledge"  I figured it was someone I would know so looked it up.

The only names I could tie to him were the ones he just gave, and they went WAAAAAAY the fuck back.




I am reminded here, ever so slightly, of myself.  I am currently serving a forever ban from any AW game servers.
You don't have to point out the differences in situations,  I am aware.

  Played Q2 for 5 months

  Accused of wallhacking enough it made me curious what it looked like.

  Looked for one (Go Google!), and found it on a website devoted to cheating in online games.

  Loaded it and played with it planning to even the playing field and totally rock with all these really good people who must cheat.

 
  Ended up sick to my stomach after the first 4 games,  unloaded it and had a great time the rest of the night.   
I didn't really come clean about it on my own, didn't see the need to after I figured out how shitty it was on my own.
But I did mention it in a thread on their forum defending the 'just to try it' attitude.  Zero tolerance

  I can't complain, they are a great bunch and expect nothing but honorable behavior from their members AND guest on the servers,
and it landed me here.   
  Nowadays, there isn't really anywhere else to go.



  Anyhow,   Little shit or not in the past weeks.    He's handled the bashing in this thread fairly well. 
I forget who it was, always forget the name, but they wallhacked a bunch and enjoyed the hell out of it.
Posted a whole bunch of screenshots of wins WITH THE WALLHACK SHOWING!  One of the screenies was vs me

He was banned for a bit (Thanx for saving the screenies Foc),  and let back with forced name/forced AC.
Why not here? 

"His hack didn't show when AC was loaded"

    Just because it didn't trigger a fail doesn't mean it's being overlooked altogether.
    And yeah, I agree it should be given to the admins to see what the deal was as a condition.

ok, enough rant..  have a 

call that catching up for the last few weeks I havn't been on the forums

gnite

   

[[BTF] Reflex]

p.s.  Snarf,  if you do get back on with a forced name, don't go with snarf...  it could remind people of snarfdumple  
http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?action=search2


p.p.s.  Offers to videotape yourself playing are silly, and never have I heard someone say that and thought that they were a well adjusted person...
           Just sayin.           Unless you are a girl and what you are playing with isn't a mouse and keyboard.  Even then, not well adjusted. 

[haunted]

would rape both of you wallhacking newbies 1v2 on any server, anticheat disabled/etc. preferably for extra humiliation

bad.

[Snarf]

p.s.  Snarf,  if you do get back on with a forced name, don't go with snarf...  it could remind people of snarfdumple  
http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?action=search2


p.p.s.  Offers to videotape yourself playing are silly, and never have I heard someone say that and thought that they were a well adjusted person...
           Just sayin.           Unless you are a girl and what you are playing with isn't a mouse and keyboard.  Even then, not well adjusted. 

Yeah.. It's unorthodox.  Trying to be up front though. I know I fucked up but I really am not a  person who hacks and cheats normally and I made a mistake. I hope you guys give me a second chance.   

[[BTF] Reflex]

would rape both of you wallhacking newbies 1v2 on any server, anticheat disabled/etc. preferably for extra humiliation

bad.

Can't rape me, I run to fast.

AC disabled server so you can fire up your newbie mowing down bot?

well, I guess this basically shows how good you guys are at determining cheats.. being that i am 100% sure that it's a ratbot being that it's what me and metal used

How many beers you at tonight so far?  Hope everything's good man.
=p 


Snarf - goto bed.   You're (most likely) not going to play tonight, and you don't wanna be all tired for church in the morning.

[haunted]

LOL

sorry reflex, for some reason through my beer goggles while skimming that, i thought this "preflex" character was mocking you and referencing a time similar to snarf's in which he was caught cheating.

[[BTF] Reflex]

I knew it,   was totally right about the beers

[Whirlingdervish]

You got banned for the new purchased wallhack a week or more ago. Then YESTERDAY you tried to connect using a detected wallhack on the Tastyspleen community server: tsla.

Sounds like you were trying to find one that would work for you, or you still had not removed the one you purchased and now it was detected.


Now we should believe that you made ONE mistake, and you are now very sorry for it, when we've seen multiple mistakes and no signs of you being sorry, or making any change in your behavior?




PS: you were using a wallhack against me when I played you last and you were such a coward that you could not run forward or press a single attack and you had to hide in mega room and +back to get kills with spam aimed right at someone you could see the whole time with your cheats.
For reference, I am horrible at duel. This makes you even more horrible.

I also did not try to join recently (within the last 2 weeks) with any type of hack.

Funny, your IP and anticheat say otherwise.

http://stats.antiche.at/?ip=24.21.162.186

Step one: Tell the truth.

That's your IP. It's been logged on various servers so even though you used an alias (conveniently not on the list you say are your only aliases) it is obviously you, less than 2 weeks ago, being caught with a wallhack.

PS: People who were caught using a wallhack AND NOT ANTICHEAT, were historically given the chance of using AC to connect instead of being banned outright. In this case though, he's shown that even with AC he will spend cash money to cheat and appear legitimate.

This is not just "I went and googled a wallhack and loaded up q2 and played for giggles".
This is "I went out of my way to get one made to bypass anticheat so I could appear to be legit while cheating and fool people while acting like they were the ones who cared too much when they called me out"

He was banned BEFORE anticheat caught the wallhack, while he was using anticheat.

This would indicate that we cannot trust him with anticheat, and we cannot trust him without anticheat.
It leaves banning as the only option to allow everyone else to play on these servers and not have to worry that they are being screwed out of a fair game by a cynical cheating dick who thinks he's fooling people with this obvious razor routine #231 for getting back on a server after you've been caught cheating.

To anyone who played with him while he was not banned, this "Im so sincere and contrite now that I got caught" routine should be fucking hilarious. He's trying to play on the fact that some of you are too nice for your own good and too willing to give people second chances because you personally won't be hurt by it if he fails to live up to expectations.

You may not be that bothered by it if he cheats again, but others will be and some may just stop playing q2.
One of the last two duels I played in q2 consisted of being wallhacked by this guy while he had AC valid (and while I was pretty sure he was hacking regardless of what it said when I put in aclist) and left me with a very sour taste in my mouth regarding playing q2 any further with anyone who I don't know.