snarf wants to play quake 2 -banned

[Snarf]

You got banned for the new purchased wallhack a week or more ago. Then YESTERDAY you tried to connect using a detected wallhack on the Tastyspleen community server: tsla.

Sounds like you were trying to find one that would work for you, or you still had not removed the one you purchased and now it was detected.


Now we should believe that you made ONE mistake, and you are now very sorry for it, when we've seen multiple mistakes and no signs of you being sorry, or making any change in your behavior?




PS: you were using a wallhack against me when I played you last and you were such a coward that you could not run forward or press a single attack and you had to hide in mega room and +back to get kills with spam aimed right at someone you could see the whole time with your cheats.
For reference, I am horrible at duel. This makes you even more horrible.

This was the first time.  And i had it for a total of maybe 2 weeks.   Also only played a total of maybe 20 games with it.  You know this wasn't exactly the response i figured i would get for coming forward and being honest and trying to apologize to you guys. I also did not try to join recently (within the last 2 weeks) with any type of hack.  If you'd rather I not join the ts servers fine.  "fucking faggot (bundle of sticks), go kill yourself"  seems pretty harsh, bud.

Haunted, I don't have much to say to you. You seemed to have good intentions and initially were a nice guy.  Not sure why you started being an asshole to me. (first reason i aliased) You should treat people better who are obviously new or are trying to get back into playing. Not giving a shalacking and rubbing it in their face with verbal assault and then kicking them out of the server for not being able to give a proper challenge.  (yes this happened to me multiple times) I don't mean for this to excuse my cheating but just something to consider guys. That is all.

-regards

[yahoo]

wait..
is that true? you bought a cheat for a 14yr old game??

 

lol that is really lame.
just for curiosity, from who and how much ?

[adz1La]

wallhacking and still losing, 

[haunted]

lol @ that part addressed to me.. ignored everything and cites an example of the one time me and someone else vote kicked him.

and yes it was only once, and no it wasn't because "you didn't provide a good challenge" lmao. you're a joke.

and if anyone is curious, this guy is loki/Ouch!Hot/insert alias who used to lurk on TSLA.

[Sgt. Dick]

Cheating in gaming - Sad

Paying 50 bucks for a cheat - Extremely Sad

This game needs players, but not someone like that.

[ex]

wait..
is that true? you bought a cheat for a 14yr old game??

 

I've heard by more than one person that you have ties to Razor, the biggest cheater-fag in q2 both here and abroad.  Might wanna take it easy, lest you be called the pot vs. the kettle.

BTW, to the OP:  If you want to cheat, try Quake Live.  There cheating is tolerated very well!  You'll have a great time.

[Barton]

lol @ that part addressed to me.. ignored everything and cites an example of the one time me and someone else vote kicked him.

and yes it was only once, and no it wasn't because "you didn't provide a good challenge" lmao. you're a joke.

and if anyone is curious, this guy is loki/Ouch!Hot/insert alias who used to lurk on TSLA.

Yep. Basically if you saw a player on TSLA with 33ms and a random alias it was mostly like him.

Here's my opinion on the whole matter:

Most online communities have a zero tolerance policy with cheating, which seems harsh but actually works decently for a deterrent, simply because it's impossible trust or gauge the honesty of the "anonymous player". Thus the few draconian laws enacted by these communities keep the average player's inclination towards unethical behavior in check.

Considering that fact, I think this guy should be made as an example and stay permanently banned. There a few reasons why this guy can't be ever easily trusted:

1. He had such a strong desire to cheat, shown by the fact that he paid 100% more of what the game actually costs right now, for working cheats. Seriously that's going to such great lengths to just to get working cheats.

2. Obviously had or still has ties with cheaters and/or hackers. We have no idea if he is still in contact with such people. Clearly we can't take his word on this topic.

3. He already had fishy behavior prior to the hacks, such as with him using random aliases heavily. To me it didn't really seem like he liked using different names. If that was the case then he would clearly admit that he was the same player to me, but he never did. He always dodged that question, as if he had something to hide.

4. His recent "change of heart" is hard to buy. Somehow he goes from having nearly no remorse at all for cheating and getting caught (e.g. justifying that he was cheating because he wasn't a part of the community and doesn't really play the game), to regretting his "mistake". The only mistake he did was cheating, and then not covering his tracks good enough because he got caught so easily.

5. The loss of his presence makes zero impact on the community. With and without the hacks he was still a terrible player, and a very boring one to play with or against (e.g. try-hard at most times, +back at all times, dm1 only). I'd be hella surprised if someone actually misses playing this guy. :x

[Sgt. Dick]

+1

[fdrjk]

You know this wasn't exactly the response i figured i would get for coming forward and being honest and trying to apologize to you guys. I also did not try to join recently (within the last 2 weeks) with any type of hack. 

<MCS_FaderJok0> [15:45] <jas01> i am not an avid quake 2 player
<MCS_FaderJok0> [15:50] <jas01> i'm not really a quake player and not even part of its community
<MCS_FaderJok0> [15:50] <jas01> dont even compete in tournaments so whats the deal?

Oh yeah. You're real honest, buddy. 

(By the way, the reason you haven't joined with a wallhack recently is BECAUSE YOU ARE BANNED.)

[haunted]

hurricane clean up lunch break atm......

i'll scope out my demos thread and post a few shenanigans with this tool later this evening or something.. i'll only upload games where he rage quits or i beat him 20+ to negatives, and only on TSIL/TSLA where he had a full working wallhack.

actually there's so many of those i'll just pick the most entertaining ones.

[ex]

One of the best things about Quake 2 is AC.  I think he should be allowed to play, under his forced name, and AC forced as well.   

Seems to do wonders for people who like to cheat in this game.  This is the only area where I disagree with what Barton wrote - in Quake 2, unlike other games, permanent bans aren't necessary because we can simply force AC on their asses.  Hell, we can do that for his entire ISP block if it came down to it I think.

Anyway:   

edit:  Just re-read that this guy was "loki"...ROFL, he hacked too?  Jesus, the dude was worse than me...

[fdrjk]

One of the best things about Quake 2 is AC.  I think he should be allowed to play, under his forced name, and AC forced as well.   

Wouldn't matter. The wallhack he was using was undetected by anticheat. Keep him banned. 

[ex]

One of the best things about Quake 2 is AC.  I think he should be allowed to play, under his forced name, and AC forced as well.   

Wouldn't matter. The wallhack he was using was undetected by anticheat. Keep him banned. 

Ah damn.  I always hate when people put themselves down in a hole like that.  Oh well.

[|iR|Focalor]

If my understanding of how AC works is correct, he was PREVIOUSLY using his wallhack undetected with AC, but AC still kept a running account of the unknown process every time he connected with it with AC loaded. I am to assume that it would be possible to designate that specific previously unknown process as a now known cheat and kick/ban whenever it detects its usage by anyone again. Not sure if anyone would actually need a complete copy of the hack file/s in order to define the process for scanning purposes. Also, I haven't seen R1CH around the TS irc channel in a long time, so who knows if AC can be updated any with new data if he ain't around to do it.

Nevertheless, from what a few people have said, he actually PAID CASH MONEY for this working wallhack. That's a higher level of douchery if you ask me. Buddy needs to sit with his nose in the corner for a while before anyone considers letting him jump back in. You gotta be a complete sucker to think he's actually sorry for what he did rather than just being sorry that he got caught doing it. I dunno about anyone else, but I certainly don't get the impression that he's ready to completely turn over a new leaf and go 100% legit from now on. Maybe if he'd provide admins with a copy of the files and all info about where and how he got them, then maybe I'd be more inclined to believe that he's sincere.

[Barton]

AC
Wouldn't matter. The wallhack he was using was undetected by anticheat. Keep him banned. 

Yes undetectable, but I figured that an updated hash list with the hack he's using would block it until it was modified??

If my understanding of how AC works is correct, he was PREVIOUSLY using his wallhack undetected with AC, but AC still kept a running account of the unknown process every time he connected with it with AC loaded. I am to assume that it would be possible to designate that specific previously unknown process as a now known cheat and kick/ban whenever it detects its usage by anyone again. Not sure if anyone would actually need a complete copy of the hack file/s in order to define the process for scanning purposes. Also, I haven't seen R1CH around the TS irc channel in a long time, so who knows if AC can be updated any with new data if he ain't around to do it.

Yes this is exactly what I was thinking too.