If Quake 2 was 2D

[ex]

All this is, is a difference in opinion.  Mathematically speaking, you're right, as far as the intended result of 3D effect goes.  But if you think of things you see on a flat screen, in reality, they are all 2D.  They become 3D because of, in Quake 2's case, movement in height, width, and length.  However, those dimensions are artificial and only on a screen which is 2D, which is what I meant.

Anyway, no sense in getting your anal all bunched up.  This argument is silly.

[|iR|Focalor]

That's not silly. This is silly.

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[haunted]

you're right

It's silly because there is no argument.

No math involved:

When someone calls quake2 a "three dimensional game" they are referring to the game play and physics being an obvious simulation of three dimensions... and they're not wrong for doing so. There is no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Your entire point is based on the fact that in reality one is looking at a flat monitor... in regard to this,



..all one would have to do is use the monitor above to debunk everything you said.

Hope that helps.   

[X'tyfe]

What the hell monitor is that, It's wider than my ass

[ex]

you're right

It's silly because there is no argument.

No math involved:

When someone calls quake2 a "three dimensional game" they are referring to the game play and physics being an obvious simulation of three dimensions... and they're not wrong for doing so. There is no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Your entire point is based on the fact that in reality one is looking at a flat monitor... in regard to this,



..all one would have to do is use the monitor above to debunk everything you said.

Hope that helps.   

It seems we're in violent agreement on the simulated 3D effect.  As far as the whole monitor issue goes, I was referring to the typical flat screen monitor most people use now.  There are other specialized monitors like the one you posted, which does have more than a 2D surface.

Anyway, glad to know you so strongly agree with my thoughts.   

[haunted]

trolling like that possesses the same amount of wit as your initial statement: "Technically speaking, Quake 2 is 2D.  The screen creates the illusion of 3D."(when of course, they are referring to the game play/physics when one calls quake 2 three dimensional, not to mention the screen doesn't "create" the illusion of 3d).

being wrong isn't the end of the world kenny

[Sgt. Dick]

What the hell monitor is that, It's wider than my ass

Barely 

[wallppen]

length depth and width.  -_-


pretty sure this is some 3rd graders website but this may help you out.

http://ww2.valdosta.edu/~pcharrigan/ebook4.html

[haunted]

go back to thinking that I'm afraid to play vae or something, EVEN that had more merit than what you just added to the discussion.

[ex]

being wrong isn't the end of the world kenny

Being an arrogant prick isn't either.   

[The Happy Friar]

The screen is flat, hence 2D.

Our eyes are 2d so hence the entire world is in 2d.  Plus, before color photographs, the universe existed in black and white.   Before motion pictures everything with a series of single images that would go from one major pose to another.   

Back to 2D Quake....

Needs work.  To make it more like contra/etc. you should only be able to aim at 45 degree angles (0, 45, 90 from facing direction), same with AI.

[haunted]

being wrong isn't the end of the world kenny

Being an arrogant prick isn't either.   

mad/bad/etc.

[The Happy Friar]

When someone calls quake2 a "three dimensional game" they are referring to the game play and physics being an obvious simulation of three dimensions... and they're not wrong for doing so. There is no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

So throw on a pair of 3D glasses and it's 3D then.  Then it's a 3D game.  Based on what you're saying, someone with only one eye only sees the illusion of 3D, the universe is actuatly in 2D.

[haunted]

not what I said...

when someone calls q2 a 3d game, they are referring to being able to move in 3 dimensions through the game play / the POV of your simulated q2 character. It means that X, Y, and Z have values, and these values can change.

How is that wrong?

[The Happy Friar]

...but I call Quake 3D because it looks 3D.