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Offline FirebirdTN

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Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« on: May 01, 2012, 02:14:43 PM »
Sorry for the dumb question.  It's been a while.  My beloved Sony G400 crapped out on me some time ago.  I am finally getting around to deal with it (I'm a busy guy), and well....pretty much only thing available are  widescreens.  I cannot STAND a stretched display, so I grabbed q2Pro, and set it up to my liking.

Anyway, I am so bad at Quake2 I can use all the help I can get (seriously, when u see me play, you will think WTF), but I have read on the web somewhere that some consider increased FOV cheating...

What is the consensus here?

Thanks,

-Alan
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 02:21:09 PM »
increased fov is standard for quake in general, many cpm players play with the max the cpma mod supports (130) but overall in q2/q3/ql youll see the average being around 100-115

i personally use a 16:10 monitor with 110 fov... lot of old schoolers will still rock crt monitors with the 100 or 90 fov though

also, q2pro is kinda cool, but i would suggest running r1q2 with anticheat, it just seems a bit more polished.... not to mention q2pro doesnt support http redirect for game asset downloading, where r1q2 does :) if ya dont know that that means, just imagine downloading stuff 30x faster when ya connect to a server rather than having that very slow download speed...
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 02:24:30 PM »
Hmmm, thanks for the info and tip on R1Q2.  I did have AprQ2 (I think it was called) on my old laptop, but it was a slideshow on the new laptop (old lappy ATI, new Intel integrated-Should have handled it fine, don't know what was up with it), but maybe R1Q2 will behave on this thing.

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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 03:32:02 PM »
bright skins are also standard for every quake, just incase you end up wondering if tahts a cheat too... q2 just happens to be the only quake without a nice way of implementing bright skins :) pak file generally does the trick though...
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 03:49:52 PM »
there is probably a thread that's searchable on here that explains setting up fullscreen with a widescreen monitor, just in case you can't find a resolution that works well with the new setup.

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http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=18521.0
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 04:03:04 PM »
r1gl supports wide screen resolutions (most not all) natively, so no need to do custom res strings when ya can just set the appropriate gl_mode
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 04:05:35 PM »
i run an eyefinity triple monitor setup

using a fov of 150 makes it appear as 'normal looking' to me versus the fish-eye appearance sum1 running a fov of 150 on a single monitor would experience

is it an advantage in-game?  prob  anyone without a similar setup would be at a slight disadvantage i suppose

but it is nothng to worry about as I pretty much suck at quake 2 now   lol

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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 05:32:30 PM »
the advantage is negligible between better players, its not about what you can see
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 06:08:26 PM »
Now that we're on the topic... I set up the 1920x1080 on my config file, but I can't get this little thing to get out. And on my config it says fullscreen.
How do I get it to fullscreen and take these icons out?

btw: This is on the original config

set gl_driver "opengl32"
set gl_texturemode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"
set gl_texturealphamode "default"
set gl_texturesolidmode "default"

But on my autoexec file it says r1gl for gl_driver

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« Last Edit: May 01, 2012, 06:11:35 PM by Escher »
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 06:56:07 PM »
vid_fullscreen 1
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 09:01:17 PM »
Didn't work :raincloud:
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 10:02:47 PM »
Add this to your config if you haven't already: vid_ref "r1gl"
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 11:26:45 PM »
Yup. Nothing :frustration:
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 01:04:05 AM »
did you see if you could set it from the menu? and then find out the gl_mode that the menu sets and put that in your config instead?
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Re: Is FOV / widescreen considered cheating?
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 03:24:30 AM »
Yeah. But it's choppy. My video card sucks. Whatever it is.
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