Forced Anticheat - Please remove

[Furion]

I find it disappointing that I was forced-anticheat without any proof of cheating.  Alpha and/or Ex cowardly just banned me without posting a demo or showing any kind of proof of me cheating... which they know they don't have.

First off, I use windows98, which, AFAIK, doesn't support the anticheat.dll... but maybe that has been improved since I last read about it.

Secondly, I don't use ANY modifications to the game, I consider that a cheat.  It is part of the 'slippery slope' of cheating in Quake2 that I personally am offended by.  I don't modify anything in the game that cannot be done from the menu(with the single exception of gl_modulate, but that is only because ATI can't make a card that is bright enough).  Modified pak resources, bright skins, glow models, modified hud, textures, kickangles, timers, cl_maxfps, rate, etc... are all hacks of the game that give a player an advantage over other players.  Personally, I think that is disgusting... everyone wants an edge.  I guess they have no confidence in their own skill.  To me, cheating is just slightly farther down the slope than these things.
For this reason, I am not interested in running r1q2/anticheat even if it does work on Windows98.

Thirdly, I have played with Quadz in person.  He knows, and should be able to attest to, all of my statements above.  He knows I use the stock game on windows98.  Surely a person who sees the game as in the attached screenshot is not interested in modifying the game to cheat.

Lastly, my connection is not optimal.  It ranges from ok to poor.  Yesterday, I was ok, but if you watch the third demo, you will see how I often experience the game.   

Posting this here, because last time I posted demos in the demos forum, Haunted banned me.  I guess I'm just not very popular.


Once again, surely someone of mediocre skill and all of these handicaps is not cheating.
I challenge anyone to post a demo proving that I am cheating, because we both know it doesn't exist.
Please remove the forced anticheat on my IP.

[haunted]

Alpha and ex couldn't have banned you, they're not tastyspleen admins or anything..... AC isn't forced upon people unless 1) a specific, incident caused it or 2) your caught in a subnet ban..... Console will post and tell us why this happened, so no big deal.

[Whirlingdervish]

windows 98.. yeah.

I'll believe that when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert!

 

[VaeVictis]

win98... lol

if thats true, i suggest you upgrade to AT LEAST xp, for more reasons than just anticheat.dll

win98 is so insecure its laughable

[fdrjk]

Furion: Pretty sure you just got caught in a subnet ban for forced AC; no one banned you and it'll be fixed in no time, don't worry about it.
 

[ex]

A little history:

Last night he was playing on the dm server, and was repeatedly fragging me coming around corners, and would wait standing out looking directly at me on almost every frag.  I started doing the sound tricks and loopbacks, using walk instead of run, didn't matter what I did, he was always right there waiting.  It was painfully obvious.

Then I started doing extra tricks, like pretending to walk right out into the open and then backing up just a little, and what happens everytime?  He shoots.  Every single time.  The biggest clue was when he was camping above the hyper on dm8 and rocketed himself in the face because he was looking at me through the floor, something wallhackers do constantly.

I guess the main nail in the coffin is when you ran clear by me when I was hiding and you spawned in front of me.  Why didn't you check to see who was behind you?  Because wallhackers rarely worry about what's behind them, only what's in front of them.  They usually don't listen to sound very well at all.

Furion, you may be able to fool others but you CAN'T fool me.  I've worked both sides of the arena on wallhacks, and I used to wall myself several years ago (something for which I am ashamed), so TRUST ME, YOU WERE WALLING.

While not conclusive proof of cheating is available, the fact that you weren't using AC combined with your playing style would let anyone who's experienced wallers know what you were doing.  And the fact that once it was mentioned you tried to hide it and still did a bad job at it only makes it look worse for you.

Get on anticheat with a supported program, bro.  You aren't banned, you're just forced anticheat, and with good reason.

You have been accused of cheating.  If you aren't guilty, you should have no problem getting on AC like the rest of the community.  And no, you using Win98 isn't a valid excuse.  I believe R1q2 has win98 support.

You shouldn't be against using it when most of the community is on it, and especially if you've been accused of cheating, it's probably a good idea to jump on board.

[ex]

Just checked, Windows 98 is most absolutely supported with r1q2, along with anticheat.

Get it, dude.  There's no point in you not getting it unless you have something to hide.

[quadz]

I find it disappointing that I was forced-anticheat without any proof of cheating.

Note that forced-AC requires a lower standard of evidence than banning.  (The two are not usually equivalent, as the player's OS tends to be compatbile.)

In your case, it what it took was a complaint, plus a look at your alias history.  You've used hundreds of aliases on your current IP, frequently several per day.  There appears to be no single alias that you've stuck with longer than a day or two.  

This is not in itself a problem, but it happens to be a trait shared by many cheat users.  So from my point of view it comes down to, "I have no idea who this player is, but it appears they are going through some lengths to avoid establishing an identity."

Thirdly, I have played with Quadz in person.

Wait, you mean at QuakeCon?  Now I really have no idea who you are.

[yahoo]

maybe its someother quadz he is referring too

[console]

Windows 98 is most absolutely supported with r1q2, along with anticheat.

Since when?

[ex]

Windows 98 is most absolutely supported with r1q2, along with anticheat.

Since when?

http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=777.0;wap2

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[console]

Windows 98 is most absolutely supported with r1q2, along with anticheat.

Since when?

http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=777.0;wap2

In case the highlighting was insufficient, I've increased the font size as well.

r1q2 ≠ anticheat

[Sgt. Dick]

Someone has the wise one Quadz confused 

[Furion]

To Whirling:  The TS admins can tell what OS I am using from the web server logs.(I strongly assume)
To VaeVictis:  The only security issue with Windows98 I am running is Quake2.  TBH, it is a lot more secure than NT-kernel OSs since their subsystems are easier to target and have "services" and "users" available in a multi-user OS.   But your concern is certainly valid in most cases.
To Faderjok:  Often true, but not in my case, Ex and Alpha just assumed I was cheating while they were playing me.

To Ex (and Alpha): Please post some proof.  I don't know what happens behind closed doors or on the Admin forums, but many players have been publicly been forced-anticheat... but ONLY AFTER some proof has been posted.  Seems very unsupported to force anticheat on a player without it.  And how many people have these two accused in the past?  nearly every good player on TS, I imagine.

Additionally, and most importantly, once again, r1q2 works in windows98, but anticheat.dll does NOT work in windows98.  Forcing anticheat on me is banning me.
(the posted link is discussing how r1q2 does not work in windows95.  It requires a more modern winsock version, I'm assuming.)

To Quadz:  I will send you a PM.

[QwazyWabbit]

The anticheat DLL won't load on Windows 98 clients. The Windows 98 file system lacks the security protocols needed to support it.