Another Suspicious Wallhacker

[digency]

Very suspicious. Shoots and fights like he's walling. Watch the demo and see if you agree with me. The person I'm talking about is Haunted (he's a HPB)

[haunted]

This = Digency's response to my post involving my aggrivation with him, here is our AIM conversation.. he is just mad because i didnt give him the wallhack i didnt have.. oh well

iMMyofActusReus: hey
OzFactr: sup
iMMyofActusReus: yo
iMMyofActusReus: you know that im deaf right
OzFactr: nope
iMMyofActusReus: yeah well i use headphones but the sound are all fucked up
iMMyofActusReus: cant tell where my opponent is specially in 1on1
iMMyofActusReus: i cant improve my game cuz of this disability
iMMyofActusReus: anyways
iMMyofActusReus: do you trust me?
OzFactr: sure
OzFactr: why?
iMMyofActusReus: give me your wallhack, i wont tell anyone, i wont give it out to anyone.
iMMyofActusReus: thats the only way i can improve my game
OzFactr: ...
OzFactr: are you serious?
OzFactr: i dont wall dumbass
OzFactr: you cant be serious.
iMMyofActusReus: dude im serious i wont tell anyone i just want it to improve my game
OzFactr: I DONT WALL.
OzFactr: ...
iMMyofActusReus: dude i'm im saying this as a friend
iMMyofActusReus: i like you
iMMyofActusReus: i aint triyng to get you banned or anything
iMMyofActusReus: but ive watched you alot
iMMyofActusReus: alot of your shots are suspicious
OzFactr: wow
OzFactr: good bye

He will probably deny that this conversation happened, or say that he wasnt really looking for a wallhack and just trying to incriminate me with evidence.. idc WHATEVER, the fact is, is that me and him were friends and everything was fine, so i dont see why he would want to try and incriminate me  so i would guess that he really wanted one.

Typical drama and gayness. 

[haunted]

I just saw the demos and its even gayer, I wasnt even trying in the first one, i was completely messing around.  As for the 2nd one, i dont even play in it, lol. I think it would make more sense   to post demos of me when i'm actually trying to frag people if you were trying to catch me "walling" than a teamplay game where i didnt try because of totally stacked teams, frustration, and lag. I encourage people to watch these and any of my demos (a few in demos section). I guess immy here doesnt listen to sounds/teambinds.

oh well i get bored of defending myself so if the content of this forum continues to be bullshit, I probably won't respond.

[{TNP}Dukie]

r u the same immy that had a little clan of total badasses on mplayer before it's demise?
if so what was that clan name, i'm racking my brain!! 

[digency]

Nah, If you had given me the wallhack, I wouldnt have had the need to post this demo. Your lucky you didnt fall for my trap, I was trying to be sneaky as possible. Even if i had gotten it, I would have given it to the admins first.

I wasnt the only one suspicious of you wallhacking, alot of people are. I wasn't even suspicious until several people asked me what they thought of you. Anyways the demo is out, if anyone agrees or dissagrees so be it.

Dukie: Nah, I was never on Mplayer. This is why i changed my name to Digency, too many people named immy out there.

[BigwigKEA]

I was trying to be sneaky as possible.

Oh god! Please stop trying. It was so obvious. 

[the Crazed]

Yeah... you actually getting a wallhack from Haunted would be kinda hard to prove anyway...

[PANTONE 7717C]

saw the first demo and imho the things i see are actions of the typical dm1 player who's playing on autopilot because of high ping, like spamming hotspots like the busy doorways upstairs. But it's always so hard to tell.

The one player that always comes to mind when we're on the subject of suspicious players is still my man Ax2grind; here's one of the many demos i have of him... recammed to get 1st person view.
I know I can beat him by fragcount in ffa sometimes, but somehow it always gets frustrating playing that "sneaky lil bastard". I'm certainly not alone on this so that's all I need to know. Just play the guy (he's mostly on mutant) and you'll see what I mean.

[plastik]

there is a demo posting section now   


anyways, after reviewing that demo, I do have to say that there were quite a few moments that seemed almost 'auto-aim' like, I recently tested out frkq2 on some small empty server filled with other little frkq2's and I have to say, from experience with the program(not illegally), that it does look like he 'knew' where people we're at, 2 or 3 times he was shooting in places where he couldn't possibly hear or see them coming from.  and if you notice, all of his shotgun shots were very 'on target',  at certain times when he fired, it would seem as if his sensetivity for the mouse had doubled instantly, so that he could make those lashing shots.  The most controversial part is his accuracy, notice he missed with the rail a few times, but with the SSG and Chaingun, he was almost 100%, even when both him and the target were moving.  remember, you can still use programs like frkq2 and not be detected, more so today than back in the good ole quake II years.  I definately think one of the admins should look at the demo at the very least.I'm not hoping for him to be/notbe a cheater, but if he is, then he will get what he deserves for it.

[digency]

when i did my post about 2005 i should have made a little girl category and put you on the top of the list

this is old news anyways digency, ive been through all the accusations and gayness from people like you.  Everytime it's the same, when an hpb beats you, you resort to cheat accusations because i guess people like you can't handle getting beat by someone at such a huge disadvantage. I give your presentation the rating of... disingenous at best 

We've never 1on1, Ive never hated or disliked you, infact you were a good Q2 buddy. I have nothing against you, but I'm sorry, cheaters must go. I'm accusing you of cheating after watching you play.  I had to sound almost LEGIT when i was talking to you over aim, If i was like "Give me the hax" it would sound suspicious. Anyways, the demo is up and if anyone agrees so be it. Now I know why Dkarn quit the TS tourney before, similar situation happened like this.

[[BTF]Defiant!]

there is a demo posting section now   


anyways, after reviewing that demo, I do have to say that there were quite a few moments that seemed almost 'auto-aim' like, I recently tested out frkq2 on some small empty server filled with other little frkq2's and I have to say, from experience with the program(not illegally), that it does look like he 'knew' where people we're at, 2 or 3 times he was shooting in places where he couldn't possibly hear or see them coming from.  and if you notice, all of his shotgun shots were very 'on target',  at certain times when he fired, it would seem as if his sensetivity for the mouse had doubled instantly, so that he could make those lashing shots.  The most controversial part is his accuracy, notice he missed with the rail a few times, but with the SSG and Chaingun, he was almost 100%, even when both him and the target were moving.  remember, you can still use programs like frkq2 and not be detected, more so today than back in the good ole quake II years.  I definately think one of the admins should look at the demo at the very least.I'm not hoping for him to be/notbe a cheater, but if he is, then he will get what he deserves for it.

Regarding Ax2Grind, I don't think he cheats, but I look forward to watching the demo.  I would put him in the top 5 of FFA/DM players.  I've noticed too, that he has some class: joining when good players are on and leaving when only novice players are left.

There is a big difference between frags in FFA/DM than 1v1.  It is typical to get 5 rails in a row in FFA/DM.. because most of the players move in a straight line and move directly toward an obvious item or exit path.  Play a good 1v1 player and they are aware of you, moving erratically, putting pressure back on you, spamming, etc..  Very different. 

Regarding "prediction", don't underestimate players who are good.  Prediction can be based on pickups, hopping, falls, spawn, typical routes, intuition, and just spam.  Nothing gets someone thinking "bot" more than railing them long distance, before they could have been seen.

Def

[BigwigKEA]

I watched hauntedwalling.dm2 and I still have no idea why you posted this demo as a possible evidence. To me he did nothing that would even come close to proving he's cheating. He's just spamming rockets where ppl usually come from. And starting to chain before to turn corners...I'd do the same thing if I was still a hpb.

[adrenal1ne]

haunted is far from cheating..he sux               <3 haunt

[[BTF]Defiant!]

anyways, after reviewing that demo, I do have to say that there were quite a few moments that seemed almost 'auto-aim' like, I ...<snip>

Regarding Ax2Grind, I don't think he cheats, but I look forward to watching the demo...<snip>

Absolutely no evidence of cheating in that demo.  I don't mean to be insulting, but that was typical play for a player at his skill level.  I enjoy playing him.   In general, unless people are overtly having fun, I don't think players should hang on a server with 10x other people's score.  I don't think that was typical for him.

And this really belongs in it's own thread.

Here is a demo of Ax and I on after everyone else left on the DM server.  To be fair, he usually beats me in FFA matches.

Def

[{TNP}Dukie]

I pretty much remain thoroughly unconvinced on the Haunted demos.
He does the same thing I do.  You would not believe the amount of people who chase me around a corner or through a door 5 seconds later.  With my ping that's where most of my frags come from.
When you are guarding the big room on the edge, it only pays to spam a the  doors.