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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2010, 11:21:12 PM »
I mean I completely understand what your saying vae really i dont need you to explain it. Im sucker for good air rockets in frag movies that make me go WTF GTFO YOU DID NO JUST PULL THAT OFF. I mean, and this is my own personal opinion, cress may correct me after, and in that case ignore this. But I don't think he was going for an OVER the top epic frag video, shit like that takes time and effort and talent. Hard for a beginner at editing videos to pull off right off the bat. I'm sure you have a bazillion demos you could look through. and Im sure he does too, wasnt like he spent a month producing it. He was just showing the game as it is. Maybe we should just all submit time stamped demos with some nice frags and do like a community video making thingy mcbobber, idk. Can't hurt anything. More exposure, its fun to do.


Yeah, I just pulled out some random frags.
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2010, 11:40:20 PM »
I agree with Vae's constructive comments. Most of the frags in the video are not that interesting, for the reasons he said. He said my biggest gripes, which are:

-The people you were fragging had mostly bad movement, so quite a bit of the frags are not impressive.
-Match1 and the other random map don't show much interesting frags, because match1 is spam and the other map is too huge.

Another reason why the frags aren't too interesting is because there's not enough weapon diversity, although that's because of match1 and the other map you played. I wouldn't worry too much about music. Whatever music you choose is fine, as long as it's not loud and obnoxious, because there will always be someone who doesn't like your music selection in frag video.


The only thing I'm gonna question there is.. bad movement? When you're being shot at you don't run away, Unless a. you're low on life b. have no weapons or c. you're bonzai  :ilysign:. rene51 is kinda big, But it's all aim, if you wanna control ra you're most likely gonna give up all the weapons and ya, I know there isn't much awe inspiring shots possible there, I was kinda going for brutal onslaught more than top tier frags, I've got damn near 2000 demos all randomly labeled. if I remember a good frag I got I couldn't go find it so quickly. Also, I suck at video editing and my keygrip doesn't work properly.. So I wasn't asking if this was an overly good frag movie, Although I do appreciate your input on it, But how did it make you feel? If you were some random person that , never played quake before, Or played a long time ago and don't think people still play, Would it make you wanna come back and try it out? That's what I was going for.
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2010, 04:43:57 AM »
The only thing I'm gonna question there is.. bad movement? When you're being shot at you don't run away, Unless a. you're low on life b. have no weapons or c. you're bonzai

A lot of the rail shots from ztn in that video were easy rails, where the opponent was moving in a single direction. That's not interesting at all.

That situation proposed shouldn't affect a person's movement. Ideally, it should motivate the player who's about to die, not to get hit even more. 

...I know there isn't much awe inspiring shots possible there, I was kinda going for brutal onslaught more than top tier frags, I've got damn near 2000 demos all randomly labeled. if I remember a good frag I got I couldn't go find it so quickly. Also, I suck at video editing and my keygrip doesn't work properly.. So I wasn't asking if this was an overly good frag movie, Although I do appreciate your input on it, But how did it make you feel? If you were some random person that , never played quake before, Or played a long time ago and don't think people still play, Would it make you wanna come back and try it out? That's what I was going for.

Virtually every good frag video you see is about impressive frags, so that's what people expect to see when they watch such a video.

That's not really a good excuse. If you had potentially better footage to use, you should of put aside the time to sort through your footage, or organize your demos better in the future.

So I wasn't asking if this was an overly good frag movie, Although I do appreciate your input on it, But how did it make you feel? If you were some random person that , never played quake before, Or played a long time ago and don't think people still play, Would it make you wanna come back and try it out? That's what I was going for.

Your video is not interesting, and it doesn't excite me to want to play the game. That's just my honest opinion. You shouldn't feel bad about it, though.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2010, 05:29:37 AM »
The only thing I'm gonna question there is.. bad movement? When you're being shot at you don't run away, Unless a. you're low on life b. have no weapons or c. you're bonzai

A lot of the rail shots from ztn in that video were easy rails, where the opponent was moving in a single direction. That's not interesting at all.

That situation proposed shouldn't affect a person's movement. Ideally, it should motivate the player who's about to die, not to get hit even more. 

...I know there isn't much awe inspiring shots possible there, I was kinda going for brutal onslaught more than top tier frags, I've got damn near 2000 demos all randomly labeled. if I remember a good frag I got I couldn't go find it so quickly. Also, I suck at video editing and my keygrip doesn't work properly.. So I wasn't asking if this was an overly good frag movie, Although I do appreciate your input on it, But how did it make you feel? If you were some random person that , never played quake before, Or played a long time ago and don't think people still play, Would it make you wanna come back and try it out? That's what I was going for.

Virtually every good frag video you see is about impressive frags, so that's what people expect to see when they watch such a video.

That's not really a good excuse. If you had potentially better footage to use, you should of put aside the time to sort through your footage, or organize your demos better in the future.

So I wasn't asking if this was an overly good frag movie, Although I do appreciate your input on it, But how did it make you feel? If you were some random person that , never played quake before, Or played a long time ago and don't think people still play, Would it make you wanna come back and try it out? That's what I was going for.

Your video is not interesting, and it doesn't excite me to want to play the game. That's just my honest opinion. You shouldn't feel bad about it, though.

Don't worry, I don't feel bad. I wouldn't have asked for criticism otherwise. It'll just get me to make one where I take more then minimal time to make.
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2010, 08:23:03 AM »
I've been collecting demos to make a combo / frag / trick jump vid, started on it the other day. Still thinking about the proper song to sync everything together with... the only songs that go "well" with it, I don't like. Take white zombie - superbeast for example(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBtpqbOKXk ), which is a laughable song to me. Although I don't necessarily like it, there's a lot of changes in intensity and tempo throughout the song.. just like my combos, frags, and whatever will vary in intensity, mood, etc. When I play it behind it behind combos it makes me actually like the song a lil, which is what I like to look for, from the viewer's POV. It's almost like writing a story kind of, and the song sets the mood of it. The best ones are the length of a typical song, short and sweet, and with all things in the video very cool to watch.

Fortunately I have LOAAAAADS of combo video material, due to me always going for the craziest, most eccentric, frags possible a lot of the time. You end up hitting quite a few of them after trying for years and years.

I recorded myself doing the SSG jump on dm1 20 times in a row the other day, which I'll have going while the credits are rolling I think.

I know I kind of talked about working on my own vid, but I was still trying to give some general advice and a few examples of what I think is cool.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2010, 08:26:20 AM »
I've been collecting demos to make a combo / frag / trick jump vid, started on it the other day. Still thinking about the proper song to sync everything together with... the only songs that go "well" with it, I don't like. Take white zombie - superbeast for example(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBtpqbOKXk ), which is a laughable song to me. Although I don't necessarily like it, there's a lot of changes in intensity and tempo throughout the song.. just like my combos, frags, and whatever will vary in intensity, mood, etc. When I play it behind it behind combos it makes me actually like the song a lil. It's almost like writing a story kind of, and the song sets the mood of it. The best ones are the length of a typical song, short and sweet, and with all things in the video very cool to watch.

Fortunately I have LOAAAAADS of combo video material, due to me always going for the craziest, most eccentric, frags possible a lot of the time. You end up hitting quite a few of them after trying for years and years.

I recorded myself doing the SSG jump on dm1 20 times in a row the other day, which I'll have going while the credits are rolling I think.

I know I kind of talked about working on my own vid, but I was still trying to give some general advice and a few examples of what I think is cool.
no no, I got where you were coming from. I was hoping to figure out how to use keygrip and things like it, but every copy of keygrip I get somehow fucks up and crashes everytime I start it. also I was wondering how some people got the glowing weapon models, and bright skins.. from their pov the railgun was like surging with blue lights, And I've seen skins like it too, That'd be cool to have
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2010, 12:19:09 PM »
I love how Vaes posts were deleted and it just looks like you're sextuple posting  :o

But seriously, does Vaes position restrict ANY posting abilities? While we're on this topic whats with that "Super ShortBus Extravaganza" position that Dervish has? Or that "proboscis brigade" position adren has??  :frustration: :frustration: :frustration:

BTW vital, I'm going to pass you in posts soon enough.  :twisted:
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2010, 03:56:01 PM »
dervish's and adren's things by their names were voluntary, I think.
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2010, 04:01:19 PM »
I want one! ;D
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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2010, 06:55:09 PM »
What's the song called? I like it ._.
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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2010, 02:57:52 AM »
Take me away- Globus.
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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2010, 08:27:17 AM »
More cowbell,  and some close up slowmo :)


One awesome thing,  this was listed in the similar videos on youtue->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L9-80UFuGg&feature=related

Very relaxing,  and makes me wanna go play it.
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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2010, 04:46:34 PM »
More cowbell

MOAR COWBELL

I think that you should edit the camera so it will follow your rockets, grenades, etc. That would be cool if you shoot from far away and get a hit like you did on DM1 but you could see the rocket.
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« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2010, 05:18:51 PM »
MOAR COWBELL

DID SOMEBODY SAY MOAR COWBELL????

 :righteous:

YEAH BRO

And you should have some other song for another video such as...
LIVE AND LEARN
YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
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I don't worship the devil. Jesus is Lord, friend. He died for your sins. He will forgive you if you just ask.
 

rikwad

October 09, 2024, 07:57:21 PM
Sorry, I couldn't resist my inner asshole.

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